Hope for America!!

[Drich]

So which is it?

On the one hand you are saying that you hit a child until you get the results that you want. You are admitting that there is no actual limit to how much you will hit a child.

If the child continues to rebel, how far are you personally willing to go?

But on the other hand you suggest that you have limits. What are those limits?

Do you personally know how much you are willing to hit a child?

Still waiting for an answer to this. Especially as you have since said this:

The point? If you child need discipline then you must be willing to do whatever it takes no matter what to reel them in the frame work of our society

I see your confusion. It's based on my use of the term "whatever it takes." You wrongly assume "what ever it takes" refers to an escalation in violence. again no. Whatever it take simple refers not taking any tools or methods off the table. If spanking is not working then one must move on. if it is then you have your answer there as well.

Did you see that Chalupa Dreaming? that's how you give someone enough slack to hang themselves... You let them think they have you on your heels and when the press in for the kill you kick out the chair and "ack" (the sound one makes when they are being hung)