(April 22, 2016 at 11:56 am)SteveII Wrote:(April 16, 2016 at 12:43 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote: I posted this (along with a bit more stuff) a few days back in the apologetics area of Christian forums and have gotten no intelligent rebuttals yet. Thought I'd see what you all think. Maybe pretend you're Christian for a minute and try to tear it down.
1. Properties are either intelligently assigned or randomly assigned.
2. God has properties.
3. God was not assigned these properties by someone else.
4a. Assume God did not assign his own properties to himself.
5a. No one assigned God his properties, so they are not intelligently assigned.
6a. God's properties are random.
4b. Assume God did assign his own properties to himself.
5b. We can reasonably agree that God assigned himself his own properties according to his own preferences.
6bA. Assume God assigned himself his own preferences.
7bA. Before God assigned himself his own preferences, he did not have any preferences.
8bA. God assigned himself his own preferences randomly.
9bA. God assigned himself his own properties according to random preferences.
10bA. God's properties are random.
6bB. Assume God did not assign himself his own preferences.
7bB. God's preferences are not intelligently assigned.
8bB. God's preferences are random.
9bB. Go to 9bA.
http://www.christianforums.com/threads/t...d.7941675/
It's one big problem. Properties are observed/discovered - not assigned. Some properties are essential to a thing (de re) and the thing could no longer be that thing without those properties. God is a good example of having a set of essential properties. Timeless, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, etc. Without these, then you would be talking about something other than God.
If I create a computer, am I not rearranging its prior constituent material into something new with properties that the material didn't have before? Aren't I intelligently assigning the computer with properties?
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.