EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay?

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G bump: Thank you Yes, I don't subscribe to the whole "wasted vote" thing, although I can understand the pragmatism. I don't consider it wasted, if it raises the profile of particular issues. If smaller parties are ignored, the issues can also safely be ignored by the big parties.

Kudos to labour though for making animals important, even when its competitors get away with trying to make things even worse (fox hunting).

In NY we have the (http://workingfamilies.org/states/new-york/) they do so much to push candidates in the democratic party to the left. They've even primaried a few. However they haven't gone tea party crazy and shut down their efforts when their Canaanite didn't win. 

To me this is the "tip" of the iceberg of what needs to move the needle of american politics.

The fund-raising, the CU decision and the District scribbles all need to be address before any non- "establishment" can be elected. And you don't solve those by electing idealists and by not voting or not voting in midterms.


Nothing will change unless we lay the ground work. I think allot of folks ask for the Maple sap before planting the acorn.