(April 4, 2011 at 8:45 pm)tackattack Wrote: 4-Whatever your sexual actions are with another consenting partner are your business. You're ignoring the fact that women, men and children are actually raped and it's recorded and some people want to do that to other people.
In actuality actual rape is actually punished. Illegal porn and actions are persecuted.
Quote:Your breadline doesn't work because the line right next to it is for a free buffet. There's tons of porn out there other than 5-6 categories of faked illegal porn. No one will starve their sexual appetites by shutting these categories down. I stopped porn all together and I don't crave it in the slightest, because I have a healthy sexual output, my wife. There will be an increase in urge momentarily but the people who have an urge to do illegal shit, will eventually lose that battle with themselves. I'd rather them be called out of the closet, then wait for the next girlscout knocking on their door.
You do realize I was not comparing bread lines with lines for porn, but noting what desire for a thing does when a thing is absent/relatively so? The drug trade operates well enough and it is illegal, as would banning these varieties of porn. I also wasn't noting banning only some, but all porn.
Say you didn't have a wife. Suddenly there is an absence of healthy sexual output. And suddenly you are in a lot of people's positions. And that could cause danger to girl-scouts knocking on doors, unlike leaving porn alone. I'm against the entire girl-scout idea myself, so I would rather it wasn't encouraged one bit and was stamped out by intelligent parents.
Quote:8-I can't get over my parenting instincts on this one, nothing is worth one child extra being abused, raped or exploited. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm not a end justifies the means person.
If you could have a million dollars by pushing a button and killing a random stranger: what would you spend your money on?
But really, I don't inflate the value of people to that extent, so /agree.
Quote:9-"I don't care that an action is illegal, tacky... legality almost never enters into whether I will act or not." I can say that I'm honestly on the exact other end of the spectrum on this one. Maybe it's an age or lifestyle or cultural difference put to me it's plain as day. I think very carefully about what I say and how it will affect the others around me before I say it. The same for my actions. I appreciate orderliness in society and while morality is subjective for most, legality is only subjective by your community, and I'm thankful for that.
I *do* care what people will think. I don't care what an authority figure thinks until it comes to the point where it might greatly interfere with my life. Then I don't fail to act: I modify my act in response to the presence of the people with guns.
Hence, while I am a very careful person in a lot of ways, my concern with laws is not that they are there but what they advertise doing to me in response for breaking them.
Quote:10- Yes, I'm fine with the video game industry because at least it makes some easily circumventable legal standard. At least they acknowledge that it's harmful to individuals.
Even though it is as harmful to an individual as attending church, reading a fantasy, and actually none of these things damage people in a measurable way and infact video games increase hand-eye coordination, adaptability, and provide one with the ability to think complex things through more quickly?
Not to mention the fantastic learning tool that may be facilitated in the use of such. And all of the vandalism, murder, and whatnot it prevents by taking on those desires in their place
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
