(April 24, 2016 at 9:57 pm)Godschild Wrote:(April 22, 2016 at 11:55 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Is it even reasonable to include God's eternal existence? Is it fair to grant you that massive, unwieldy assumption when you don't allow atheists to assume that the matter and energy from which the universe arose is in some sense eternal?
The point is that you are unable to defend your description of God without first helping yourself to assumptions that you do not allow the other side to make.
I do not assume things, like I said this leads to randomness or is used to guide others to your opinion, shouldn't people be able to make up their own minds without your assumptions.
If you're referring to the Bible as assumption your wrong, and to use anything but the Bibles description of God is to make assumptions.
GC
1. If a document contradicts itself, you cannot accept it as a whole and can only scrutinize it line by line to determine which claims are true, false, or undecidable.
2. The Bible contradicts itself.
3. The Bible makes claims about a God and his properties, and such claims are undecidable.
4. You are making assumptions that these claims are true.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
