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[Brian37]

Ok moron, you do understand that scientific fields, all of them are based on the  same idea of observation, compare and contrast and control groups. But like all theists even when they accept SOME science, always run when that points away from their club's claims.

Law under government certainly entitles everyone to their own opinions, but in science, nobody is entitled to their own facts.

The experts on spanking say it only works SHORT TERM but not for good reasons, it is still rule out of fear, and negative reinforcement with physical pain does have long term affects. They can become bullies themselves, and become the verbally abusive boss, or they can go on to abuse their kids. And for those like me, it can cause trust issues and increase anxiety and depression. 

Authoritarian rule is not love, it is dictation and "obey me or else" which has nothing to do with setting a child up to be well adjusted with good conflict resolution skills.

You do NOT need to cause physical pain to get a child to do what you want. If you cant do that, then the problem is you, not the kid.

Spanking is just one avenue of the larger training system I have been talking about. your arguement that only focuses in the process of breaking a child from his unwanted behavior is not an honest assessment of the system as a whole. Because one you break a child of his foolish ways you have to replace it with something else. To spank and walk away is foolishness

Keep ignoring the experts. An I know what spanking did to me, so.