(April 30, 2016 at 1:24 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote:(April 29, 2016 at 8:07 pm)Wryetui Wrote: I considered them as laughing because they did not have any honest intention of debating and gave no information, they are entirely made for the mere purpose of mockery.
Cut the bullshit, you dismissed them out of hand because they gave answers to your question which weren't your preferred answer, viz "yeah you're right, we should all bow down and worship yhwh because truly he is god". Even this early in your stint at this website it is obvious that you are not willing to properly engage with those who disagree with you no matter how strong their arguments.
Oh and I'll say one last thing before I go down to cook dinner, your god, the christian one, is an impossibility from the very standards laid out in the bible. There are two mutually contradictory creation stories in the very beginning one depicting a single god and the other a pantheon of god (Elohim literally means "the gods" note the plural), the attributes given to your god by the bible are mutually impossible (you cannot have all power and all knowledge, having the second constrains your power, because you cannot change what you know will happen, and having the first constrains your knowledge because if you can do anything you cannot know what you will do in the future), and most of the events described in the bible never happened (there never was an Egyptian captivity or exodus, never was a unified kingdom, "predictions" of jesus such as the "virgin" birth were either made up of thin air or deliberate mistranslations and misattributions and stories like the Legion demon or jesus' home being Nazareth get the geography massively wrong, the Nazareth one especially so as the town didn't exist until c4th century CE). Your god is a busted flush, and has been so for the last 150 years for anybody with ears to hear, eyes to see, and hands to touch.
There is evidence of the existence of Nazareth, some of which points to it having existed in the time of Jesus. I'm not a Jesus Mythicist, as you know, but I can see some of the arguments for it. That said, I'd be careful using the Nazareth claim.
Bart Ehrman on the subject:
http://ehrmanblog.org/did-nazareth-exist/
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
