EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay?

[Edwardo Piet]

Sometimes because of a lack of information, sometimes because of the inability to process information.

I think it's both.

For me the former is ignorance and it comes in two kinds -- the one kind I think is just being unaware, naive, ignorant in the sense of not knowing the fact, unintentionally. The second kind I think is far worse -- willful ignorance, usually due to an agenda and/or a lack of curiosity.

For me the latter is unintelligence.

I think there's a difference between: A lack of experience when it comes to processing information, an unwillingness to process information, and a flat-out inability/ permanent difficulty. First is general ignorance/unawareness, second is obstinately willful ignorance, third is unintelligence.

You may or may not disagree, and the other thing is -- we might agree a lot internally but honestly feel like we disagree and express that externally due to the fact that a lot of what appears to be disagreements is often just semantics: And on the inside people agree. That's one of the things that interests me.

Someone can believe they agree and not agree, and someone can believe they disagree but agree -- that's why semantics and misunderstandings is important.

I think it's interesting to recognize sometimes "I think we actually agree on this point but it seems like we don't because we are expressing the same thing in different ways."

I think the problem is equivocation, veryyyyy often in arguments and debates. "Disagreement" can mean two people saying contradictory things that "disagree" with each other, or it can mean that the two people actually disagree with each other. It's possible to actually agree but say things that seemingly disagree due to a contradiction and misunderstanding, and it's possible to actually disagree but on the outside the two views expressed seem to go together.

I think it's very like how the word "say" can mean what you're trying to say but it can also mean what your words are saying. And what the words you say actually mean and what you intend them to mean are different, but the word "mean" can mean "I intended it to mean this" and it can also mean what the words themselves actually mean.

I think it's often funny how many times two people agree more than they realize or disagree more than they realize but they don't realize it lol.

I find this all very interesting but I'm sure you're already aware of it and it's not the topic of this debate so I'll shut up now lol.