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[Edward]

Wow! So it's all true because you believe it is true? Because you can't "hack" a universe that doesn't give a sh**? Poor you but, despite the long-winded philosophical answer, colour me unimpressed (and YES I thought about that before I posted it).

So you ARE a Christian! Well there goes my last chance to respect your views

Ladies and Gentlemen! The Great Atheist! A dolt who is unimpressed and close-minded, to boot. An absolute authority in his own mind. So afraid of being wrong, he'd rather know nothing at all. He's an atheist! And no matter what someone says, if he brands them a Christian--they get his hand! What an amazing creature God hath wrought. See him in his geek-shiek glasses. See his bald head and goatee beard. See him with his Starbucks walking around Barnes and Noble. See him appear so intelligent and then watch in awe at what doesn't come from his mind!

Adrian: As I said to Frodo, "It's a bit like when theists claim that belief is the harder path ... it's rubbish, it's easy to believe, it's harder (much harder) to remain sceptical. I think it's a lot easier to believe in things like god (indeed recent research suggest we're built to believe), it takes education, training & discipline not to fall for that kind of rubbish."

If we're built to believe, don't you have the slightest curiosity as to why? And excuse me, but it doesn't sound like you have a lot of discipline because you can walk around with your eyes closed saying, "I don't believe, I don't believe. I'm a skeptic. Prove, prove, prove." Don't you see that blind skepticism taken to its conclusion will leave your mind more like that of a reptile than a human being? I told you before, you think you know things, but you don't. You only know what you've been told. You only believe, and you only believe because someone who holds a psychological authority over you told you to believe. You're like a Rush Limbaugh Dittohead. You're just like the religious.

Now, bring out some original philosophy. Synthesize some arguments into a new concept, provide some answers that you, yourself, have created, and then you start to become human. My guess is you'd also become a theist.

Edward: "So here, refute this one; we'll call it prima facie evidence for the existence of God: The universe displays intelligence; therefore, the universe is intelligent. An intelligent universe is what we call God.

The usual theistic metaphysical bullshit then?

You ask for an argument, you get one you can't handle, so you wave it off as bullshit. Even though almost every mathematician deals with metaphysical concepts, you wave it all off as bullshit. Even though great philosophers, on whose teachings we have built great civilizations, dealt extensively with metaphysics, even though quantum mechanics is a slippery slope into metaphysics, and even though the big bang itself cries out for a metaphysical exlanation, you know it's all bullshit. What a genius.

Ladies and Gentlemen: The Great Tiberius, Atheist Extrodinaire!