Pornography - are you for or against it and why?

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I’ll change your words to show you what I mean: Child pornography is a demand that cannot be fulfilled without a victim and it should be illegal. Legally dressing up consenting adults may not produce victims, which is why It’s legal. However, I feel that having those images circulating is just the same as child pornography images and is still detrimental to society.

It's not the same though is it? It's completely different in that there is no victim. There is no child. It's just consenting adults. It may be the way YOU feel, but if you want to use the argument of laws being a way of measuring what society wants (which to me isn't right) then the fact this type of porn that you would ban is still legal says to me that society has deemed having this legal alternative in the open and regulated is better than driving it, its demand and those involved underground.

Can you offer any evidence or convincing argument that banning this faked version would lead to less of a demand or decrease in production of the real stuff and actually protect anyone? Because so far you haven't. All I've seen is you saying these images are best banned as they are detrimental to society. Which without evidence is obviously a subjective and dangerous stance to use as a way of banning things.

And you keep using this argument of "Child pornography is illegal and society doesn't feel it morally acceptable. Legally faked child pornography is intended to mimic child pornography, therefore it should be illegal, because it's socially unacceptable." But on this basis would you would have to ban any act that mimics any already illegal act. So no murder, violence, drug taking, J walking on our tv sceens, in our cinemas or in our games then?

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You're missing the entire point and switching the goal posts. Child molestation/pedophilia is illegal and there are laws against that. They produce a individual victim in the physical sense.
We're not talking about those laws.. we can agree on that much

Child pornography laws apply to graphic images of children. Who are the victims? Not the children, because they've already been victimized and the pedophilia laws take care of the victimizer.
They're just images so there is no physical victim from watching a porno is there?

Your logic says all images are acceptable, which is clearly counter to the laws of child pornography.
Certain images are illegal, why do you think they are illegal? please be specific.

I already showed you that I don't believe ceasing to produce the porn will decrease the demand. The question is, is condoning and allowing the images to roam free in society increasing demand?

I clearly showed an arguement where increased visual stimuli increases urge in the id, but doesn't necessarily always result in the id overrunning the ego. Urge drives demand.

I believe I also quoted specific US law that is worded to prevent those images from being shown in public and why they're not being accused of breaking the law as of yet.