Pornography - are you for or against it and why?

[reverendjeremiah]

I would agree with A only if it isnt worded with loaded content.
Example:

A)Child pornography is illegal because it victimizes children. Legally faked child pornography produces no victims therefore should not be regulated, or prohibited.

Calling it child porn is incorrect. These are adults, no children in it.

If It is worded like this, then I would accept it:

A)Child pornography is illegal because it victimizes children. Legally faked pornography produces no victims therefore should not be regulated, or prohibited.

That I will agree with.

The rest of the earlier part of your post was irrelevant to me because I didn’t have sex till I was 18, but I get your overall point and I think I addressed it above.

Thats cool. Me? I was a player at an early age.. but I am glad you understood what I was trying to say and not take it out of context.

To punish faked images of child pornography to the same standard as real child pornography.

It isnt child porn if it is legal. Look, I dont care too much for this kind of stuff either, but it IS legal. It IS adults, not children.

I have no problem going as deep in the rabbit hole as you like as it relates to the topic. If you just want to take me through a tour of absurdism and rethink my stances on other topics, perhaps another topic or PM would be more appropriate. Uncomfortableness was never a hindrance for me, and I always welcome a chance to think of something in a different way. Whether I like what you have to say is completely irrelevant, as we’re all entitled to our opinions.

thats cool man. Im not trying to convert. I am merely saying that if we keep going this route, we are eventually go into sexual psychology.. personally I would rather avoid that route.

What is your intent Tack? To uphold the intent of child pornography laws. To punish faked images of child pornography to the same standard as real child pornography.

So if my wife dresses up like a teenager and acts like a teenager, then she is basically breaking the intent of child porn laws? You would want me and her arrested for breaking the intent of underage sex? Honestly, is that what you are saying?

Why then are there 2 seperate crimes though?

Because one is victimizing a minor, the other is consenting adults play acting. Why cant you see the difference?

Why is it illegal to both actually commit pedophilia and watch or film the act of someone else's pedophilia act?

Because one IS pedophilia, and the other isnt. It really is THAT simple. In fact a lawyer would have that statement rightly tossed out for being loaded. Calling an act that has no pedophilia in it "pedophilia" would rightly be tossed out, even by the most conservative judge. Surely you can understand this. Would you agree with me if I called your christian prayers "Islamic"? This is the same thing you are trying to do between the real crime and adults play acting. You are saying A=B. It is illogical. Pedophilia, and ONLY pedophilia, can be called pedophilia.

Example of a loaded statement: I ask you: "So Tack, how long have you been raping babies?" When no evidence that you have raped babies exist.

So you would say "...faked pedophilia". I would say "Objection your honor. No evidence has been put forth that this is pedophilia". The judge would say "sustained", And your entire 4 pages of rants you have made would all be kicked off the record.

It really is that simple. It is logical.

You would then be forced to rethink your court strategy to try and prove that "pedophilia" was the intent of the movie or pictures, which would be extremely difficult to do. It is difficult to prove intent, but it is possible if you can show a pattern with evidence where someone actually gets victimized. Someone has to be victimized for a case to be heard in court. Cna you prove this adult play acting intends to victimize children? If not I say your entire discussion is nothing more than a discussion, and not something to base any real social or legal action on.