RE: Free Will - Yes/No?
May 8, 2016 at 4:44 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2016 at 4:49 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 8, 2016 at 4:26 pm)RozKek Wrote:(May 8, 2016 at 7:52 am)Irrational Wrote: Why? Even given determinism, you still can do what you want to do.
This 1000 times. You can still do what you want to do it's just you don't decide what you want to do... Unless your will is to not be happy there shouldn't be any worries. If your will is to be happy you'll do stuff that makes you happy, it doesn't matter whether it was your free decision to want to be happy or not.
This is all undeniable anyway, no one besides a total fatalist doubts compatablist free will. The problem is it completely sidesteps the question in regards to incompatabilist free will, as a lot of people really do believe we can do otherwise in a more ultimate sense. It's not at all that compatabilist free will is not true the problem is that it's trivially true. Of course our conscious desires affect us and of course our choices and decisions are real, they're just not ultimately and absolutely free. Relative freedom was never into question. The problem is many people do believe we are ultimately and absolutely free.
-Hammy