(May 7, 2016 at 3:17 am)robvalue Wrote: This is a question for all the religious people who ever try to act on god's behalf, in a small or big way, for example:
-Trying to convince others that God is real / their religion is true
-Supporting changes of laws on religious grounds
-Mistreating someone citing religion as the reason (even killing them, in extreme cases)
The question is this:
Does God need your help doing whatever it is you're doing? To communicate? To govern as he sees fit? To reveal his existence? To demonstrate the validity of the true religion? For justice to be served?
If the answer is yes, then your God is pretty feeble. No offense, but you're just a human. If he needs your help, he's more comparable to us than to a deity.
If the answer is no, then why are you acting on his behalf? Do you know better than God how he wants things done? Can he not cope on his own? Does he need protecting? Do things need to be a certain way before he can continue with his "plan"?
I suggest that the greatest act of faith and confidence in God is to leave all of that up to him, and to stop acting like he needs armies of people to do his bidding. Every action taken on his behalf betrays a lack of faith, and a frustration with his inaction. It also reveals an arrogance that you know better than God what should be done.
Ah, but they have their "great commission" - Matthew 28:16-19
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
And that goes along with Philippians 2:10
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. . .
And that means that they will have WON, they will have been proved to be RIGHT. Everyone will believe in Jeebus.
Of course, there are also those stories in Revelation that has his nibs mowing down billions of unbelievers, blood rising to the level of the horses' bridles, and billions being sent to hell. So everyone won't believe in Jeebus. Until he chops their heads off while his minions cheer. Then apparently, only the "faithful" will be left. So finally every knee shall bow. Yay! Isn't it glorious? (Yes, I'm being facetious - but my Mother thought the slaughter of unbelievers in Revelation was one of the BEST parts of the babble, so it's a nauseated facetious.)
And apparently the believers are the ones that have to do the preachin'. As a church song says, "we are the hands Jesus has . . . we are the voice Jesus has . . . ". (He clearly has neither.)
I'm with you Rob - it's absurd. But when the preachers come here, they think that they are being the best little sheeple Jeebus could have -- they're saving us -- we desperately need their help, because obviously we've just never heard the "good news". They are incapable of seeing their preaching as the disrespectful abuse that it is. And they are incapable of putting their brainwashing under logical scrutiny. They simply can't see that their gawd is impotent, inadequate, flawed, and imaginary.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein