(May 14, 2016 at 12:38 am)Sterben Wrote: They did more then lie about the Iraq war, we should of been brought up on war crimes for the actions we did. You are a liberal, one of the best ones I know on this board.So you fault Hillary for acting on the intelligence that we all had at that time? I won't fault any Congressmen for voting for the Iraq War. I would have. It was a horrendous blunder, and it was all started off by a warmongering administration. Dick Cheney is a war criminal. He used a major terror incident on American soil to parley a war.
(May 14, 2016 at 12:38 am)Sterben Wrote: I hate Trump and heavily dis-agree with Hillary. Take for instance her dream act idea, allowing the parents of children of illegal immigrants to be granted citizenship. A prime example; That idea is very costly, I agree that they should be allowed the path to citizenship, not to be given citizenship just cause the mother gave birth to a child on U.S soil.
The DREAM Act was introduced by a Republican (Orrin Hatch of all people) in 2001 and is exactly a path to citizenship. It doesn't grant anyone citizenship. It would stop them from being deported just because 'Murrica. It came about when the Republican Tag Line was "Compassionate Conservatives." You are so uninformed about what you're talking about, it's silly.
(May 14, 2016 at 12:38 am)Sterben Wrote: The fact that if your born on American soil you typically get citizenship has always bothered me.(http://immigration.findlaw.com/citizensh...birth.html).What other criteria would you suggest?
(May 14, 2016 at 12:38 am)Sterben Wrote: Her support of big banks has always bothered me as well. So, I don't hate her by any means. She's just not in sync with what I want done in my country. Trump on the other hand I oppose fully, I'm just not willing to throw my support Hillary based on a lot of her ideas.
She's supported by money. Yes. That is a legitimate concern. I agree with your concern.
If you are a socially liberal person, she supports 95% of the issues that matter to you.
I want to ask you some questions, Sterben. You have a tendency to duck and run as soon as anyone challenges any point you've made. So hopefully you'll actually engage this time.
1) Specifically what direction do you want this country to go?
2) Which of the policies that Hillary supports do you not support?
3) Which ideas of Hillary's do you oppose?
4) Why do you question whether Hillary is a liberal?
5) What makes you think risking a Trump presidency is worth it?
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