(March 29, 2009 at 5:44 pm)Meatball Wrote:(March 28, 2009 at 5:01 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: I don't really believe in rights at all let alone ones that are inalienable. Rights don't exist unless someone can defend/enforce them.Well obviously rights are a concept we've created and try to apply to society.
Better ... I now tend to think of rights as devolving from responsibilities so I have the responsibility to ensure you (and others) have freedom of speech as do you and that that is what gives us all the perceived "right" to free speech.
(March 29, 2009 at 5:44 pm)Meatball Wrote: I think any government should do everything within their power to recognize that people should have a right to life, a right to free speech, right to assemble, etc..., and that the government should do their best to enforce these standards.
Not sure about that ... I certainly would prefer to live under an administration that went that way. I suppose my problem is that such "rights" are too idealistic for me.
(March 29, 2009 at 5:44 pm)Meatball Wrote: Obviously nobody can guarantee life, but a government should recognize that nobody is justified in taking another's life, saving extreme circumstances.
I think I would prefer to say that we all have the responsibility to try and ensure each of us stays alive, in good health and reasonable standard of living ... a kind of duty of care thing.
In the end I guess I'm just unhappy with the whole idea of innate or inalienable rights or indeed a culture that perceives them to be somehow independent of responsibility (which I think many in our society do).
Kyu
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