(May 20, 2016 at 1:24 pm)pool the great Wrote:(May 20, 2016 at 1:09 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Maybe it's just a language issue, but the definition you gave is practically identical to the one I gave. You're agreeing with me but still trying to be contrary. As for any ad homs against you, well that's for you to demonstrate, isn't it? I'm not doing your homework for you.
Stimbo, in your mind an ad hominem is an attack at the personality of a person. In reality, an ad hominem is a reaction or argument against the person making the argument instead of the position the person that is making the argument is holding. A reaction or an argument can be favoring or insulting when it is directed at a person, I was pointing out how you equating ad hominem as insults are wrong.
As for the ad hominem attempts at me, I'm not saying you're the one that made them , I'm not saying you didn't make any, but here are a few examples:
"You're an asshole pool"
"you're a douche pool"
"you're young so you don't yet realize why you are wrong yet"
Of course I'm paraphrasing, but it was all very fascinating to see how pool being an asshole and young & naive automatically makes him wrong. If I support laws against child labor will it make me wrong by default too because I'm an asshole and young & naive ? ,I wonder, lol.
Pool, in your mind we disagree, but in actuality if you read my replies carefully you'll see we're saying the same things.
Just for clarification...
P: Here is my argument and/or position.
S: Your argument and/or position is invalid because you pick your nose and eat it.
= ad hominem
P: Here is my argument and/or position.
S: Yeah? Well you're just full of shit.
= insult
Note that only the first example is attempting to discredit your position by attacking you. The second is simply an insult.
Can we end this now, please? I'm running out of ways to agree with you.
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