RE: Idea
May 22, 2016 at 1:29 am
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2016 at 1:33 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(May 22, 2016 at 1:03 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Atheistic idea grows independence, pride, pleasant lifestyle among ordinary citizens.
Theistic idea attempts to go in to the opposite direction
So - subservience, shame and misery? Yeah, sounds about right.
(May 22, 2016 at 1:03 am)purplepurpose Wrote: of giving up your pride and pleasures for idealistic goals like heaven in afterlife.
Or - in other words - giving up your property and rights for some magic beans and other empty promises.
(May 22, 2016 at 1:03 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Gods idea acts like motivator or a glue for good deeds, which is GOOD, in my opinion.
No, this "gods idea" acts as a brake on any change in society - regardless of whether it's a positive or a necessary one. It promotes servility and blind obedience to charlatans, who claim to speak for gods and wish their subjects to remain primitive and ignorant.
(May 22, 2016 at 1:03 am)purplepurpose Wrote: And thats why this idea is hated by ordinary folks - it goes straight for the kill and undermines peoples own happines and labels it as an egoisitc sin and preaches a bitter utopian lifestyle as of extreme importance, because otherwise hell...
Bullsh*t. "Ordinary folks" can't get enough of this "idea". Haven't you noticed, that the vast majority of humans are religious? So, who do you call "ordinary folks" - the minority of atheists? Lol...
(May 22, 2016 at 1:03 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Atheists attempting to shut this idea by chopping off Gods idea from scientific point of view, but all Gods idea is bringing is bitter idealism and the strongest one because of hell and heavens idea.
Communists might survived much longer if there were preaching hell and haven idea in their utopia.
Yeah -you don't know what you're talking about. Are you by any chance 15 years old? Because that would somewhat explain - if not entirely excuse - your complete lack of understanding of... pretty much everything, by the looks of it.
Nobody is "chopping off god", dumbass. There's simply no reason to include god in "scientific point of view" - because god either doesn't exist, or doesn't show himself in any reliable, observable manner. It's theism that glues god on top of observable reality -for no good reason. And if you suggest that it's necessary to make up monsters under our beds, in order to make people behave like nice little slaves, hoping for a reward after death - then you can go fornicate yourself. Billions of people lived and died so that we don't have to fellate tyrants, it's shameful to give that up for - literally - nothing.
Pay attention:
There is nothing wrong with "independence, pride and pleasant life-style among ordinary citizens". In fact - that's the ideal we've been aiming for, since forever.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw