The end of the world in Quran

[WinterHold]

Oh for Mecca's sake you are soooooo close. Atlas I'm sorry, I have tones of empathy or the fact you want the East to climb out of it's Islamic dark ages. But a label does not make others who share it your "brethren".

I seriously don't even like that when atheists pull that crap either. If you value non violence and you value western pluralism and modern civility, that empathy isn't coming from the Quran, your empathy for your fellow humans is in your genes. 

Muslim, Jew, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and even atheist, do not automatically determine if a human will only do good. Our species ability to be cruel or compassionate are in our evolution, not our labels.

'Brethren' was a big word, wrong one too. No, they aren't even "close" from being my people; I have my way, they have theirs; conflict and hostility arised between us and it cannot be hidden; little by little I have no benefit of a doubt for their savage ignorance.

Something funny, Brian, when the opposing side interacts with you from "the high horse"; as if you're in hell and he's in paradise, as if you're a pathetic demon and he's a heavenly angle. It's a common feature in religious fellas to wear white, grow long beards; they do it for a reason.
Don't worry..I learned better not to pull such crap ever again; should've trusted my hunch from the beginning.

But I still hold to my opinion. Without the Quran, I'm nothing. I'm what I am, because of what Allah showed me and blessed me towards; he showed me this book after I was... well, one of them. Sad sad days.

Even on a family blood genetic level outside the issue of religion, I don't blindly support my own family members on every issue all the time. I love my adoptive mom, but even she knows what I think of the claim that a magic cracker if she eats it will save her from hell. And while I love my biological family who originally gave me up for adoption, I have cut off my older brother, not because I hate him, but because he was abusive to me and threatened me one too many times. I don't wish him ill but I cannot have that baggage in my life, I have enough of my own problems to deal with.

It's wise to stop seeing your family as a "special case", and start treating them like everybody else. That's fair, and closer than ever to represent real "justice". 
One thing that ruined the Middle East, is too much family love; AKA "Wasta وسايط", the thing is you'll find a certain company: you can't work in it because the  manager doesn't bring anybody but family members; like a big mafia. Even if they suck at the job, they will get employed anyways, while others who have potential, stay unemployed until they forget everything they learned, just because they don't have a wasta واسطة: a family member that would get them into the company.

Hell, even governments; the 2011 january revolution of Egypt, started mainly, because "Mubarak" wanted to give the throne to one of his sons: "Jamal" and "Ala'a",
I'm sorry for that abusive brother. So sorry. I can relate; even though the person came around in my case. I hope he didn't cross the line in the abuse.

Seriously Atlas, I cant see the logic of clinging to such an old book, especially when you live under threat of others who read that same book to come to very different conclusions. To me, it would be like having more than one kid and allowing them to fight over a bicycle assembly manual to the point of death? Hardly efficient if your goal as an all powerful being is to get everyone on the same page. 

I received a hate message concerning the debate I had in this topic: the person is jealous from my relationship with the members of the forum; he's telling me "you try to show me as a terrorist to win their empathy and look cool in front of them !" 'this is what he said in my words; though.'. Well Brian, that has nothing to do with the Quran, and everything to do with an inferiority complex mixed with a superiority complex, lack of manors that is decorated with a hating mentality that has everything to do with the person himself. He never thought, that maybe his rash actions are what makes him look like a self-righteous extremist?

I gotta say it: in my case I have a verse for every action I do; I don't let jealousy and psychological complexes to control my behavior, I try my best. The Quran is playing a big role in how I interact.  

When somebody is acting in such manor; it has nothing to do with the holy book..
Look at my comment here:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-43260-po...pid1286792
I tried to be as nice as possible..

This is not a Quran-believing fanatic, this is an uneducated prick that has no manors.