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Does God exist?
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RE: Does God exist?
(June 1, 2016 at 5:09 pm)Light of Truth Wrote: If someone is an atheist, then they can have no basis for objective morality. I'm not saying that they cannot be "moral," but I am saying that they can have no objective basis for morality. With this being said, so many people say that if God were to exist, then He would be evil. By saying that He is evil, you would be making an objective judgment of Him, showing your belief in such things as objective morals, which cannot have a basis in atheism.

If objective morals exist, so does God.

Just food for thought. Smile


This is not true.

There are several thoughts on secular morality that have objective standards as their basis.

Consequentialism is one of them. 

I am an atheist, yet I believe in secular objective standards for morality. I may be one of the few, but I am in good company with Matt Dilahunty, Ronald Lindsay Ph.D., Taner Edis Ph.D., and Sam Harris to name a few.

I will lay it out later today when I have more time.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Does God exist? - by carusmm - May 29, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by ignoramus - May 29, 2016 at 5:43 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Organic Machine - May 29, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by carusmm - May 29, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by account_inactive - May 29, 2016 at 6:09 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by rexbeccarox - May 29, 2016 at 7:12 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by brewer - May 29, 2016 at 7:16 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by LastPoet - May 29, 2016 at 7:19 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Spooky - May 29, 2016 at 11:50 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by carusmm - May 30, 2016 at 10:13 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 30, 2016 at 11:47 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Light of Truth - June 1, 2016 at 5:09 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Simon Moon - June 1, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by IATIA - June 1, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Minimalist - June 1, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Light of Truth - June 1, 2016 at 5:22 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Minimalist - June 1, 2016 at 6:05 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by ignoramus - June 1, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Light of Truth - June 1, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by rexbeccarox - June 1, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Light of Truth - June 1, 2016 at 6:03 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by rexbeccarox - June 1, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by IATIA - June 1, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by madog - June 5, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: Does God exist? - by dom.donald - June 1, 2016 at 8:36 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Cyberman - June 1, 2016 at 9:09 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Minimalist - June 1, 2016 at 10:00 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Light of Truth - June 1, 2016 at 9:50 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by rexbeccarox - June 1, 2016 at 9:59 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by IATIA - June 1, 2016 at 10:18 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by The Valkyrie - June 1, 2016 at 9:53 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by IATIA - June 1, 2016 at 9:55 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Light of Truth - June 1, 2016 at 10:02 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by rexbeccarox - June 1, 2016 at 10:10 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Cyberman - June 1, 2016 at 10:18 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Homeless Nutter - June 2, 2016 at 3:32 am
RE: Does God exist? - by Veritas_Vincit - June 15, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by The Valkyrie - June 1, 2016 at 10:09 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Light of Truth - June 1, 2016 at 10:17 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by IATIA - June 1, 2016 at 10:20 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by rexbeccarox - June 1, 2016 at 10:25 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Cato - June 1, 2016 at 10:47 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Cato - June 1, 2016 at 10:31 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by ignoramus - June 1, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: Does God exist? - by Light of Truth - June 3, 2016 at 12:39 am
RE: Does God exist? - by Whateverist - June 3, 2016 at 11:10 am
RE: Does God exist? - by IATIA - June 5, 2016 at 3:33 am
RE: Does God exist? - by GoHalos1993 - June 5, 2016 at 1:46 am
RE: Does God exist? - by ignoramus - June 5, 2016 at 2:36 am
RE: Does God exist? - by deleteduser12345 - June 5, 2016 at 10:34 am
RE: Does God exist? - by Spirian - June 15, 2016 at 7:59 pm

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