RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 2, 2016 at 4:54 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2016 at 4:58 pm by ApeNotKillApe.)
(June 2, 2016 at 4:05 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(June 2, 2016 at 3:25 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: If God exists in such a way that it is beyond comprehension, then I don't know how you know that or how you can begin to make such claims about God's capabilities if you yourself can't comprehend what those capabilities are, or how you can believe you know anything about God if it is entirely unknowable...what difference is there between incomprehensible and incoherent?
Have you ever heard of the difference between positive theology and negative theology? There is a distinction between existence (that something is) and essence (what something is). People can know that God is, from various logical demonstrations, without have a full understanding of what God is. Such is the case for many things. Since the dawn of time, people knew that the sun existed without knowing that it was essentially a nuclear explosion contained by gravity. That's the positive theology side. Negative theology starts with the premise that God's essence is incomprehensible, but that it is at least possible to know what God is not such as not limited, not changing, not a composite, etc.
(June 2, 2016 at 4:28 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Thanks. I suspect he's got me on ignore because he doesn't like being exposed as an idiot. Sorry, CL, lately I've been losing patience because the so-called rational skeptics have been trying to avoid seeing their objections be decimated. I've debunked their "no evidence" card three times on separate threads by listing the clear and obvious evidence. Not one atheist has even attempted to respond.
We do think highly of ourselves don't we?
People knew that the sun exists because they could see it, and before they knew the exact nature of the sun, they could still describe the thing in at least some respects; what it looked like, the pattern it followed. The cosmic person is unobserved and undefined in any sense, to the extent that any two people who "know" the thing to exist won't agree on what it is, even when they believe in the same culture specific version of the cosmic person.
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