Hell and God cant Co-exist.

[madog]

Personally I presently accept that the universe didn't exist until the big bang ...

The Big Bang was just our known universe.  I was speaking of everything, everywhere, multiverses or not.  The 'energy' soup that 'predates' the BB.  Including whatever it is that our universe is expanding into (if anything).

It just is.  No before, no after, just a stagnant pool of endless possibilities.

It wasn't aimed at your comments .... I was just pointing out that there is no problem with us disagreeing as we would look at new empirical evidence. Even those that support the big bang theory would accept new empirical evidence that trashed the theory, in fact scientists love when theories are trashed as it gives them a new path to explore

Theists hate empirical change because they have to do all sorts of gymnastics to try to protect their dogma ....

Dog.

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Before 1920 people thought the universe was just the stars they could see.  Today we can  see distant galaxies.  We still have no idea how large the universe is or what it is.  But we do know that we will soon cease to exist

Stars are born and die.  Galaxies float through space and merge with each other like cells in a living organism.  Imagine that a single grain of sand represents our universe.  Now imagine that the real universe is a trillion trillion times the size of our perceived universe.

Isn't it a fantastic time to be alive .... how people can hold on to an ancient fiction book when you actually let what you state sink in

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