(June 7, 2016 at 11:48 am)Minimalist Wrote:They super delegates have no choice but to swing bernies way Hillary could win election but loose to trump when they run for president.(June 7, 2016 at 11:34 am)Tiberius Wrote: Oh Min.
So firstly, the Bernie crowd hasn't convinced itself of anything. What the Bernie crowd are saying is possible, because, well, it's how superdelegates work. Even the DNC state categorically that superdelegate votes shouldn't be counted in totals, because they aren't pledged to any candidate. The DNC themselves are well aware that superdelegates can change their minds, so naming a presumptive nominee based on counts that include superdelegates is dishonest.
Secondly, Bernie isn't an Independent. He's a democrat, he's running for the Democratic nomination, and he's stated that in future races he will run as a Democrat. Even when he was an Independent, he was a Democrat in all but name only, with the Democratic party supporting him against the Republican nominee.
Finally, your own words betray you Min. You would prefer to vote for someone who "has been busting her ass for the party for 30 years" than someone who has been busting their ass for the people for over 30 years. This is the terrible truth about party politics, and why Sanders has been an Independent for so long. When leaders are decided based on how loyal they have been to a party rather than how well they have served the people, you know you have a broken system.
Realistically, Clinton likely won't get enough pledged delegates to clinch the nomination before the convention. According to Google's count, she needs 571 out of the remaining 813 ( > 70%) to net the majority of pledged delegates and officially earn the nomination.
You please be sure to let me know when the Super Delegate Tsunami swings Bernie's way.
Bernie has a better statistical chance to beat trump than hillary, bernie has a bigger lead over trump while hillary out right looses to trumps.
Even politico is even making this point she is making mistakes the delegates should really reaching out to Bernie and jumping ship soon once California comes
around. As much as i hate it i would prefer that Hillary wins over Trump but looking at it there is no way in hell for her to win.
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