RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 21, 2011 at 7:02 am
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2011 at 7:04 am by Ace Otana.)
Quote:I say it is because Switz. does not dwell on the politics of fear and hate like America is known to do.I say it's because of their advanced society. They are very educated and disciplined. I don't disagree with the Switz ownership of guns, you know why? No one gets shot. Crime is at an all time low, but what happened recently over in the US? Two Brits shot dead, they were only walking down the road. Shot dead by a 16 year old. How did that happen? That couldn't happen in Switzerland.
If the US had a low crime rate like the Switz, then yeah, my opinion would quickly change. It's not the gun that kills, it's the person behind the gun. No educated and disciplined individual would go out and shoot a random person dead. You would never catch Charles Darwin gunning down a random feller in the street. I think we both can agree with. I strongly believe you to be an educated and well behaved individual and so I'm not really concerned about you owning a gun, I trust you. What I'm concerned with, is how easy it is for guns to fall into the hands of the uneducated. The Switz population are very educated, plus going into the military gives a good level of discipline. It's the society, the education and discipline.
Now, I don't think the US or the UK are known for their highly educated and disciplined population. This is where my opinion on gun ownership changes. I can trust the Swtiz with guns, but if a society continues to abuse guns, like using them for criminal purposes then maybe the society can't be trusted with them. Now, what I want to know, is how do arseholes like that 16 year old kid, get a hold of a gun in the first place? Why do the Switz not have the same problem?
You understand where I'm going with this?

It's the society, not the gun. Switzerland is a gleaming example of that. Why isn't the US gun crime level, like that of Switzerland? Blame the gun or the society?
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Can we make sure that we keep the discussion civil, it became a little too serious and personal last time. It destroys the fun of a peaceful debate

I'm pretty sure, we'll end up in agreement at some point.
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Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.