(June 5, 2016 at 3:21 pm)IATIA Wrote:Why divide the two?(June 5, 2016 at 2:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Because as far as we know, as far as we have proof for, things in nature all begin from something else. They don't materialize out of nothing.
That is something we can agree on. A theist cannot believe in something from nothing unless god is nothing. An atheist generally does not believe in a something from nothing scenario (or at least should not). One would be hardpressed to find any reputable scientist that believes in something from nothing.
Pretty much everyone agrees "something" has always existed.
Now, which is more reasonable, the universe has always existed in some form or another or some intelligent power always existed then got bored and the best it could come up with was our cosmos and the threat of eternal damnation..
Why can't the yet unknown laws that govern all existence and lead to life as we know it too be caused in some form ultimately by a singular creative life giving force? And life giving could be interpreted in many fashions, but most fitting in this scenario would be that the irrefutable potential for life was set in motion prior to the big bang.
We can observe and describe parts of what binds our universe, but can't begin to understand what caused those inexplicable laws.
Every one always asks about what makes us special...
I don't get it; as far as we can observe we are the dominant life, even though we are quite of the path of what is right.
People say what GOD is that of gaps in understanding, but then lean on chance as if it is a verifiable real thing.
That is faith in the unknown from gullibility to me.
They exclaim that GOD isn't evident, while knowing that literally every observable decribable thing, strictly physical and not, is described with exact precision mathematically. We can't explain this whatsoever, but we can discredit it as evidence of intelligent design.
These things, to me, seem against standard logic, and must be the product of bias from some preconceived source.
2¢
Peace
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