(April 20, 2011 at 4:32 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: How does that remotely address my statement?? What are you even talking about?? What fantasy of mine???? You did not even come close to responding to my actual question nor did you even bother to include it in your rebutal. Straw man bashing -- REALLY????Hi Cinjin
I'll try it this way.
Do you believe that your god is willfully allowing those poeple a lifetime of suffering for some unknowable plan of his making?
Yes or No? Simple question. No fantasy. No talking in circles (which you're good at). No sidestepping. No answering for the masses. Just you and your belief. Yes or No?
What I was trying to point out about your statement, which I agree doesn't look clear now... is that you jump from God loving everyone equally to God apparently NOT loving all equally ~ by choosing to punish some.
I personally don't believe that God does this. This is what I'm saying about your insistence.. that you repeated twice above ignoring my statements to the contrary. If you want to continue to pursue this understanding of god, then I'm afraid you won't be addressing me, or what I understand to be the correct interpretation of Christianity. I'm not about to defend a belief that I don't hold and don't think is correct.
So to try to answer your new question, or re phrased question... [Do you believe that your god is willfully allowing those poeple a lifetime of suffering for some unknowable plan of his making?]
Gods plan that you're addressing I equate with the natural order (we all know the scope of that)... it's just how things are. This is the setup, the creation, the way the cosmos is ordered. The way that things suffer as part of life. Nothing mysterious there.
I understand God to be creator. Divine spark. Originator. Positive force. What goes against God... negativity, death, destruction...... isn't God. It's anti God.
So.... no. For those reasons.