Hell and God cant Co-exist.

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How can you justify your claim that if there was a GOD science would be impossible? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me.

Oh, yes - it does. Did you even read my explanation - it's all clear there, if you take the trouble to read and comprehend it, instead of dismissing it out of hand, simply because it doesn't agree with your magic-based view of reality . I think you're being disingenuous.

But sure - let me repeat myself: if there was a god, who had a will and emotions (like love, for example), who created and had direct control over everything that goes on in the universe, so that he could bend it and change it to his will, whenever he found it necessary(that's what "omnipotent" means, you know), without the need to let us, humans know - then how could you be sure, that anything we find out through scientific methods is true, reliable and constant, and not just a temporary side effect of god's will? What are you suggesting - that we should pray, while doing science, begging god not to f*ck with the laws of physics right now and to NOT do any miracles? lol

How can the fastest speed possible in the universe be the speed of light, if there's a god who can change it, if he needs to make a miracle? If god's omnipotent - there is no fastest speed possible - because god can always go faster. How can you base calculations on something that can change at any moment, if god decides that it should? You see - the way science works - if we measure speed of light now, it will always be the same, can't be changed. But IT CAN CHANGE, if god wills it to - so we can't say it's the fastest speed possible, can we? Of course - you probably don't realize how important the speed of light is for science, because you seem to be scientifically illiterate, but let me just assure you, that if that constant couldn't be established - most of modern astro-physics would be useless - just wild guessing, not science.

And it's the same with all laws of physics - how can you be sure, that god did not design the world in such a way, that physics work one way, when you're looking and a completely different way, when you're not? The scientific universe doesn't have a mind, a will, or a "plan" - there's no reason to believe, that physics will change, or that miracles will happen for our benefit, because universe doesn't give a sh*t about us and what we think. But your god allegedly does give a sh*t, and changes physics, to show us magic, like biblical flood, walking on water, or waking the dead.

How come when it's convenient for you, believers - "god works in mysterious ways", but right now you're trying to tell me that god's creation and his will are transparent to you and can't be changed, so we can measure it and it will remain the same, always? Are you thick, or just pretend you can't see the problem, because it's too difficult and painful to face it?

Wasn't changing any subject.

Yes, you were. You started talking nonsense about "dividing" your beliefs and sh*t, because you were stumped by the incompatibility of your belief in god with science. It's ok to admit it - we're all friends here. And we all understand, that it must be very difficult to argue, from a position, that's utterly wrong and irrational.

I have no fantasy and can take more scrutiny than you could ever muster to be honest.

Well, if by that you mean, that I can't examine your head, while it's hidden deep inside your rectum - then we're in agreement.