RE: Being a sinner just for being born
June 13, 2016 at 12:05 pm
(This post was last modified: June 13, 2016 at 12:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 13, 2016 at 12:00 pm)Ignorant Wrote:Defend the consistent application of your own framework for determining moral imperatives? No thanks.(June 13, 2016 at 11:56 am)Rhythm Wrote: You just told us that things which add to the fullness of what we are..... -are- good actions. [1] We are merciless killers, [2] merciless killing adds to the fullness of what we are, [3] and so it must be a good action. It hardly matters what I think, rationally.
1) Yes, that is true.
2) Are you a merciless killer?
3) It simply and obviously does not add to human fulfillment.
Are you prepared to defend merciless killing as a way to human fulfillment?
1) Having agreed with this, and applying your previous framework for determining moral value, how can you avoid the conclusion that it is a good action?
2) You just agreed that we were - as in one line above. Seems like a pointless question to ask.
3) Show your work. When you've done that work, tell me how to decide between whatever that is, and the fullness of what we are - or this new proposition, human fulfillment (because I'll just as easily find a situation where something nasty leads inexorably to human fulfillment). That's really all I'm wondering about.
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