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Islam Counter-Apologetics
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RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics
(June 17, 2016 at 5:50 am)paulpablo Wrote: Personally the first point I would make when talking to someone about my disbelief in Islam is that I don't pretend to have any argument that totally disproves Islam.

I can't read Arabic so I don't know if the Quran is the most beautiful unique book ever. I wasn't there around the time of Muhammad so I don't know if he was an illiterate man visited by an Angel.

My main argument against Islam is that it's very suspicious to have a book written as a message to the entirety of mankind in one language and very focused on local events and specific to the time period the Quran was being written in terms of buildings, cultures, idiomatic expressions.

For instance the phase "whom the right hand possess" doesn't mean anything literally. It's an Arabic idiomatic expression.
In addition there's people in the book and situations that aren't understandable in any context without the help of Hadith or other historical sources, for example in the Quran Muhammad randomly talks about his uncle and how he will be in hell.
It's sort of like me saying my uncle from Yorkshire has a message for the entire world, the message is that it's going to rain cats and dogs in Barnsley next week if Tom doesn't get his act together and pull his finger out. He better bloody well put some elbow grease into it.

Which sounds funny but this is exactly what Muslims believe.

Do you think Pharaoh discussed in Quran is particularly about Pharaoh? Or is Pharaoh used to show something more universal in structure of society? (ie. the Taghut)
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Islam Counter-Apologetics - by Veritas_Vincit - June 17, 2016 at 5:38 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 5:38 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by paulpablo - June 17, 2016 at 5:50 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 12:11 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by paulpablo - June 17, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 12:25 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by paulpablo - June 17, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 5:54 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 12:09 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 12:15 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by Minimalist - June 17, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by MysticKnight - June 17, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by Veritas_Vincit - June 17, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by mralstoner - June 17, 2016 at 8:50 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by Darwins Disciple - June 26, 2016 at 10:58 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by robvalue - June 17, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by vorlon13 - June 17, 2016 at 9:34 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by robvalue - June 18, 2016 at 2:18 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by Spinchance - June 18, 2016 at 2:30 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by paulpablo - June 18, 2016 at 2:38 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by Spinchance - June 18, 2016 at 6:30 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by robvalue - June 18, 2016 at 2:50 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by Aoi Magi - June 18, 2016 at 7:25 am
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by Angrboda - June 26, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by WinterHold - June 26, 2016 at 12:49 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by Minimalist - June 26, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Islam Counter-Apologetics - by ReptilianPeon - June 26, 2016 at 1:00 pm

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