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Challenge to Evolution Deniers
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RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers
(April 25, 2011 at 1:41 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: To be clear to anyone new, I in no way am an evolution denier.

Understood. I often play Christian's advocate myself.

Quote:Ahh, but you see: that would require me to have evidence. Which was my contention (that I would only "defend" this position for so long as evidence is not required).

There is of course the effect that evolution has on education. Perhaps it is that this was a precedent to the rest of their plan... Act One, so to speak. Smile

LOL. Fair enough.
(April 25, 2011 at 12:28 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: As for the evolution deniers, it's hard for them to shout conspiracy when (correct me if I'm wrong) not a single paper has been put forth to be peer reviewed by the scientific community at large. Amongst other creationists sure, but none of their so-called compelling evidence has been provided to try and convince others.

What got me to post this thread was thinking about Ben Stein's train wreck of a movie "Expelled".

This movie, although it tanked at the box office, seemed to be a hit among hardcore creationists. Many skeptic YouTubers have debunked the smaller assertions of the movie but I looked at the big picture and saw a movie that was contending the existence of a massive, international conspiracy to suppress all the "evidence" for ID.

The first thought I had coming out of the movie was "My God, the scope of such a conspiracy is mind boggling in and of itself."

According to the movie's contentions, entire careers in the academic and journalistic fields (yes, they control the journalists as well) were being ruined simply because they had the temerity to question evolution. For over 100 years now, this conspiracy by what I assume is some Darwinist junta, has crossed all national borders to control the academic community and the journalistic profession (arguably the toughest segments of our society to control, since skepticism and peer review are ingrained in their culture).

I think it's no exaggeration that this conspiracy theory makes the "9/11-Truther" conspiracy theory look positively mundane.

The Truthers at least offer some motivation behind the conspiracy (money, power, fear and control). No motive has ever been offered for the "Darwinist conspiracy" as far as I know. Even Ben Stein's movie never offered anything.
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Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by DeistPaladin - April 24, 2011 at 4:17 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 24, 2011 at 5:42 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 24, 2011 at 5:53 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 24, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by JohnDG - April 30, 2011 at 5:36 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Faith No More - April 30, 2011 at 5:58 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Violet - April 24, 2011 at 6:21 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by DeistPaladin - April 25, 2011 at 12:24 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by downbeatplumb - April 25, 2011 at 6:25 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 24, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 24, 2011 at 7:48 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 10:16 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 24, 2011 at 11:04 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by cheesychoad - April 24, 2011 at 11:08 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 24, 2011 at 11:09 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 11:17 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 24, 2011 at 11:23 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Minimalist - April 25, 2011 at 2:08 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 24, 2011 at 11:13 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 1:41 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by DeistPaladin - April 25, 2011 at 2:10 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - April 25, 2011 at 12:09 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by theVOID - April 25, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2011 at 12:28 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 25, 2011 at 1:57 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2011 at 3:11 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Minimalist - April 25, 2011 at 3:24 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2011 at 3:26 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - April 25, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2011 at 3:55 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 25, 2011 at 4:03 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - April 25, 2011 at 4:21 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 25, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Minimalist - April 25, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - April 25, 2011 at 5:18 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 25, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 6:07 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 25, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 6:32 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 25, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 6:40 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 25, 2011 at 6:52 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 25, 2011 at 6:58 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2011 at 7:04 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 25, 2011 at 7:10 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by downbeatplumb - April 26, 2011 at 1:40 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2011 at 7:48 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 25, 2011 at 7:57 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 25, 2011 at 8:02 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2011 at 8:05 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Cinjin - April 25, 2011 at 8:32 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Violet - April 25, 2011 at 8:57 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by DeistPaladin - April 25, 2011 at 9:28 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 26, 2011 at 1:56 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 26, 2011 at 4:10 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by leo-rcc - April 26, 2011 at 4:53 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 26, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2011 at 10:36 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - April 26, 2011 at 1:19 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 26, 2011 at 1:20 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 26, 2011 at 6:20 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 26, 2011 at 8:43 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Justtristo - April 26, 2011 at 8:54 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by DeistPaladin - April 26, 2011 at 11:52 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 27, 2011 at 8:17 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 27, 2011 at 8:36 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 27, 2011 at 8:52 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 27, 2011 at 9:15 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2011 at 9:28 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 27, 2011 at 1:37 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by leo-rcc - April 28, 2011 at 4:03 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by thesummerqueen - April 27, 2011 at 8:37 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by DeistPaladin - April 27, 2011 at 8:42 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Thor - April 28, 2011 at 10:28 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 28, 2011 at 11:56 am
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by DeistPaladin - April 28, 2011 at 1:13 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 28, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Minimalist - April 28, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 28, 2011 at 12:14 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by reverendjeremiah - April 28, 2011 at 3:10 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by DeistPaladin - April 28, 2011 at 3:22 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by padraic - April 29, 2011 at 8:16 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Minimalist - April 28, 2011 at 3:26 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by LastPoet - April 28, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Gawdzilla - April 28, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by Minimalist - April 29, 2011 at 9:05 pm
RE: Challenge to Evolution Deniers - by downbeatplumb - April 30, 2011 at 5:20 am

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