(June 25, 2016 at 1:27 pm)madog Wrote:(June 25, 2016 at 1:18 pm)Emjay Wrote: Would you liken the European Commission to the Civil Service as depicted in Yes Minister? Sir Humphrey Appleby et al... unelected and unaccountable policy-makers who propose and advise M[E]Ps according to their own agenda?
But anyway, yeah, I get what you're saying and where your concerns lie... and it's understandable if you've been directly dealing with these institutions for years on end. But nonetheless I'm still a remainer... against the nationalism that could be a much more immediate threat. But each to their own.
What goes on inside is pretty secretive even MEP's are on the outside .... sorry never really watched Yes Minister
Yes I can see the fear of Nationalism, which I share ... Note my personal, I have also had a case before the European Parliament through the Peti -Committee, issues have been built up from experience, which is why I never tried to sway anyone prior to the vote ....
Right, I see. You're missing out... Yes Minister's (and Yes Prime Minister) brilliant and you can learn a lot about British politics from it - I think Thatcher said it was a very accurate portrayal of government. There's a clip from it earlier in this thread which I've just found for you http://atheistforums.org/thread-43710-po...pid1312963. Humphrey Appleby's the one on the left... and btw that's why I call Hammy Humpy... cos of his run-on sentences (which you'll understand if you see it)
Cool. Sorry about pretty much ignoring you first time round... I was angry at the time and not inclined to read what looked like a very technical pro-leave argument... but I'm calm now and I'll read it properly at some point. So sorry about that.