(April 4, 2009 at 4:33 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 4, 2009 at 1:09 am)athoughtfulman Wrote:Why do I need to show it's different? You've just made that claim - I didn't. I don't know if it's true. Do you not think it needs unique reasoning then?(April 3, 2009 at 4:06 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You show me how it isn't different and I'll consider it.
No, since you're the one claiming it's different, you're the one who needs to show it's different. It is certainly not by default "different"; there must be a reason why it is so.
You don't know if it's true? So is Christianity a belief simply as the result of Pascal's Wager? I believe that anything that lacks discernible proof is for practical purposes non-existent. Give me one good reason why one claim should stand above the rest? Or are you asserting that you simply believe that Christianity is different? If so, then I think we will have to agree to disagree, for we're arguing on different planes.
(April 4, 2009 at 4:33 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 4, 2009 at 1:09 am)athoughtfulman Wrote:You haven't said why your statement doesn't follow the fallacy.(April 3, 2009 at 4:06 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Meantime... why do you insist something that doesn't exist in the realm of discernible proof by definition has to be proved in the realm of discernible proof? No no, it's fine.. of course - you're logic is solid.
No you're completely missing the point. You've said it yourself - Christianity doesn't exist in the realm of discernible proof. So if we agree on that point, tell me why it is any different from anything else that isn't in the realm of discernible proof. Take santa claus, there is no evidence of the existence of santa claus in the realm of discernible proof, so why is Christianity any different from santa claus? Or Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc, etc. There are countless examples of things that do not exist in the realm of discernible proof, so what sets your religion apart from the rest?
Your comparisons are childish and inconsequential. We reason to take certain actions in our lives. Why we don't take illogical decisions and ignore our own reasoning I couldn't understand.
Simple question - why take Christianity over other millions of unsubstantiated claims?
(April 4, 2009 at 4:33 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 4, 2009 at 1:09 am)athoughtfulman Wrote: However I feel that it's completely futile to ask you this, since you have shown yourself completely incapable of directly answering any questions which undermine your faith (don't worry, my evidence of this exists in the realm of discernible proof).LOL. You don't understand so of course you have to resort to ridicule. I completely let you be what you want to be without ridicule. I let you have that freedom. You don't present me the same freedom. I must be crazy because you don't think what I do. Do you not see something worrying about the position?
You jokes and the use of the dog walking in circles is enough to equal the supposed "ridicule" of other forum members.
(April 4, 2009 at 4:33 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 4, 2009 at 1:09 am)athoughtfulman Wrote:(April 3, 2009 at 6:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I'm just starting to laugh at this now. I love you Kyu. Will you have my babies?
Oh and have you ever noticed that people start cracking jokes when they can't directly answer a question? It seems to happen when someone is cornered.
Kyu makes no point.. what am I to do in the face of infinite quotation of the same lines? Give me a serious point and I'll try my best to answer, no problem.
You've had countless questions asked of you and serious points raised yet you fail to give any intelligent answer. It seems to be a habit of yours to avoid any question which you can't answer. You consistently undermine intelligent discussion by turning a debate into a discussion about which point is what. Your tactics, it would seem, are to confuse rather than to educate.
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