(June 27, 2016 at 5:54 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(June 27, 2016 at 5:44 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: My reasons for voting out had nothing to do with immigration. I'm generally a liberal minded guy who has never voted conservative in his life.
The fact that i have to keep repeating this to anyone I converse with on this is the most saddening thing.
You needn't repeat it to me. But out of curiosity, what drove you vote?
I could, literally, be here all day, but for me it boiled down to a few core issues:
We joined a common market, however, the EU also legislates for it's members. It has legal supremacy over it's member states too, meaning that any time a UK parliamentary statue comes into conflict with a Brussels made law, Brussels wins. This doesn't sound like the end of the world, but this legal supremacy is the basis for a political merger of the member states. The EU now has, among other things, a passport, a written constitution, a national anthem, a criminal justice system, a president, a foreign minister......... The Five Presidents report has set out a plan for deeper integration of fiscal and economic polices, plans for a "social union" have been touted and Juncker has openly admitted he wants an EU army, none of these things can be achieved without all 28 member states, Euro-zone or not.
The EU has no trade deals with China or India, neither does it have any trade deals with most other commonwealth countries. because the EU has no trade deal, nor do we. Talks have been ongoing for YEARS with countries like Australia and Canada, they have been held up for so long because of......Italian Tomatoes, among other things.
I could go on and on Thump, but I'll leave it there. I simply have no wish to become a part of a huge EU state, I understand many others do, and I am sorry for them, I really am.
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You may refer to me as "Oh High One."