For Americans tired of NRA bullying.

[The Grand Nudger]

Yes it is. I am sick and tired of this bullshit.

It is utter hypocrisy. If you claim the laws are shitty, fine, then don't obstruct those trying to improve them. If you claim it is the mentally ill, then don't obstruct those trying to prevent the mentally ill from getting them. If you claim it is the "terrorists" don't cherry pick the religion and don't obstruct those trying to prevent the wrong people from getting them.

I'm not obstructing anyone, I'm insisting that they actually try to improve them.

You cant have it both ways, you cant rightfully say we should keep them out of the wrong hands, then scream when others want to do just that.

Our laws ARE Swiss Cheese, I agree. We have no national consistency and we lack the funding to enforce those laws because of one party cutting budgets that could give us the resources to vet people better.

-and many of our laws are garbage and/or unenforceable because the other side is incompetent.  Stop pointing the finger as though it;s all the other guys fault.  It isn't.  Try to improve our laws.

NOBODY NOBODY NOBODY ........ Let me repeat....... NOBODY, as a vast majority on the left, wants to ban every single gun. That is a myth and a fucking lie. All we want on the left is to prevent the wrong people from getting them, and yes, certain types and big clips. And if the gun owner doesn't want that false perception you claim we have, then you also should value keeping them out of the wrong hands too. But what I see isn't that value, what I see is far too many on the right, a very small majority of gun owners, holding everyone else hostage. 

Then why do they keep stumping for laws that, according to you..unintentionally have that effect?

If you would pull your head out of the sand, you could see that there is nothing to be paranoid about. If you would stop buying into the NRA fear mongering you'd see what we see and you'd want what we want, and you would find that their bullshit "slippery slope" propaganda, is just that.

I;m not paranoid..I think that you, and others like you..are incompetent.

Gun safety advocates are NOT delusional. We are not trying to foster a fascist state. We simply are fed up with the flooded market and volume of gun violence. But as it stands now, we are not on the left going to continue to put up with one party and one profit lobby holding the nation hostage. Whatever the NRA started out as, is not what it is today. And I have personal friends who grew up with guns and still like guns who agree with me that the NRA is full of shit and is protecting our climate of gun violence for one reason, and one reason only, to protect the profits of the gun factories.

No more. Now either work with the left, or get out of the way, but one party and one lobby do not get to dictate our laws.

Work with the left you say, as though I'm on the right.  Get a grip, and learn who your allies are. If you told me you wanted to ban all pistols...I wouldn't agree ideologically, but I would understand the argument, practically...and shake my head in disappointment as I signed off on just such a law. Why? Because pistols actually -are- the gun of crime, and since we aren't putting any saner..or more effective measures on the table, we have to work with what we've got. If it was harder to get your hands on a pistol, that 40% of our gun problem that is due to gun violence would decrease. It wouldn't go away (nor would pistols).....but it changes the calculus of crime, and Joe "What about my rights" Citizen could still rest easy in that he could own a shotgun to protect himself from all the criminals with pistols....and obviously still has access to gun. See how easy that is?