(July 6, 2016 at 8:43 am)SteveII Wrote:(July 5, 2016 at 9:44 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You initially claimed that your belief in the NT miracles was different from that of other miracle stories. You seem to be treading water here. How are you different in your belief in the miracles of Jesus than other believers in the incredible?
1) Content of the NT is internally consistent within itself and with the OT.
2) More historical support for more actual documents written by more than one person
3) Historical support of first century church
4) Person of Jesus is a compelling figure
5) Observations of personal effect of Jesus in the lives of other people
6) Personal experience.
1) No it is not. In the beginning of the book, there are two different creation myths neither of which is compatible with the other. An internally consistent book wouldn't display such a contradiciton.
2) There is no historical support for what is written in the bible.
3) There is no historical support for a church before the 2nd century CE
4) Person of Carrot Ironfoundersson is a compelling figure, person of Gandalf the Grey/White is a compelling figure, person of Zororaster is a compelling figure, person of Gulliver Foyle is a compelling figure. That doesn't stop any of them from being completely fictional creations.
5) We can observe the "personal effect" of Moses, Vishnu, Thor &c in people too. But yet you don't believe in the religions those figures are supposed to profess.
6) Anecdote is not evidence. Plural anecdotes don't make evidence.
So in conclusion, you have no reasons for believing in miracles, apart from your prior bias towards believing in miracles.
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