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Does a God exist?
RE: Does a God exist?
(July 6, 2016 at 8:43 am)SteveII Wrote:
(July 5, 2016 at 9:44 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You initially claimed that your belief in the NT miracles was different from that of other miracle stories.  You seem to be treading water here.  How are you different in your belief in the miracles of Jesus than other believers in the incredible?

1) Content of the NT is internally consistent within itself and with the OT. 
2) More historical support for more actual documents written by more than one person
3) Historical support of first century church
4) Person of Jesus is a compelling figure
5) Observations of personal effect of Jesus in the lives of other people
6) Personal experience.

I think you are doing well Steve, and maintaining your composure a lot better than I could.   I always take it as encouraging, when the arguments are ignored, and those opposing start attacking your character, and using poisoning the well tactics.  Just about anything can be dismissed, with a hyper-skeptical approach, and it's why it is not pragmatic to hold consistently. 

It's kind of fun, just to spectate!  As I said, you are maintaining yourself better than I would.  By now, I would have went POE, and started using their same arguments against evolution.  It's not as productive, but I like watching them back pedal and use circular reasoning.
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Does a God exist? - by Veritas_Vincit - July 5, 2016 at 6:02 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Alex K - July 5, 2016 at 6:05 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SofaKingHigh - July 5, 2016 at 6:27 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by ignoramus - July 5, 2016 at 6:40 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by SofaKingHigh - July 5, 2016 at 6:42 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Alex K - July 5, 2016 at 6:32 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SofaKingHigh - July 5, 2016 at 6:26 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Mr.wizard - July 5, 2016 at 6:44 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by account_inactive - July 5, 2016 at 6:47 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Mr.wizard - July 5, 2016 at 6:49 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by Mr.wizard - July 5, 2016 at 6:54 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by account_inactive - July 5, 2016 at 7:04 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Minimalist - July 5, 2016 at 11:55 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by SofaKingHigh - July 5, 2016 at 12:01 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by pocaracas - July 5, 2016 at 6:48 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by ignoramus - July 5, 2016 at 6:52 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by ignoramus - July 5, 2016 at 6:58 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Alex K - July 5, 2016 at 7:02 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Veritas_Vincit - July 5, 2016 at 7:10 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Excited Penguin - July 5, 2016 at 7:24 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by SofaKingHigh - July 5, 2016 at 7:32 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Excited Penguin - July 5, 2016 at 7:41 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by ignoramus - July 5, 2016 at 7:41 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by Expired - July 5, 2016 at 7:52 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by vorlon13 - July 5, 2016 at 12:04 pm
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 5, 2016 at 1:35 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by Veritas_Vincit - July 5, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 5, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by pocaracas - July 5, 2016 at 2:17 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 5, 2016 at 3:00 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by pocaracas - July 5, 2016 at 3:24 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by Whateverist - July 5, 2016 at 5:35 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by Veritas_Vincit - July 5, 2016 at 2:43 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 5, 2016 at 4:15 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 5, 2016 at 4:24 pm
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 5, 2016 at 8:04 pm
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RE: Does a God exist? - by Veritas_Vincit - July 5, 2016 at 6:24 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 5, 2016 at 7:25 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 5, 2016 at 7:00 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by Angrboda - July 5, 2016 at 8:12 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 5, 2016 at 9:12 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by Angrboda - July 5, 2016 at 9:44 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 6, 2016 at 8:43 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Whateverist - July 6, 2016 at 9:24 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Pat Mustard - July 6, 2016 at 10:44 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by Angrboda - July 6, 2016 at 2:28 pm
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 7, 2016 at 10:54 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 6, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Does a God exist? - by Grandizer - July 7, 2016 at 3:07 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 7, 2016 at 10:58 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by Angrboda - July 6, 2016 at 3:38 pm
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 6, 2016 at 9:49 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 5, 2016 at 8:53 pm
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 6, 2016 at 7:15 am
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RE: Does a God exist? - by SteveII - July 7, 2016 at 9:01 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Veritas_Vincit - July 6, 2016 at 2:04 pm
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RE: Does a God exist? - by robvalue - July 6, 2016 at 2:20 pm
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Does a God exist? - by LadyForCamus - July 6, 2016 at 2:29 pm
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Does a God exist? - by LadyForCamus - July 7, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by RoadRunner79 - July 7, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Edwardo Piet - July 7, 2016 at 10:56 am
Does a God exist? - by LadyForCamus - July 7, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by RoadRunner79 - July 7, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by Grandizer - July 7, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: Does a God exist? - by pocaracas - July 7, 2016 at 3:17 pm
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RE: Does a God exist? - by Minimalist - July 7, 2016 at 5:52 pm
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