RE: Does a God exist?
July 7, 2016 at 3:07 am
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2016 at 3:09 am by GrandizerII.)
(July 6, 2016 at 8:47 pm)SteveII Wrote:(July 6, 2016 at 8:06 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: This is nothing but tradition and speculation masquerading as fact.
A culture of stories coevolved with a developing religious movement. That puts no constraints whatsoever on the original events.
Luke was a collector of stories. Nothing about his doing so precludes him collecting stories that had already developed into myth. This again puts no constraint on the original events.
This is a 'fact' which needs accommodating? No, people adopt religious beliefs all the time. His doing so is no evidence for the original events.
That explains the Gnostics then, huh? This is bullshit. It's only coherent in hindsight. This is more tradition masquerading as fact.
You haven't given me a list of facts that need to be explained. All you've done is wrap up a bunch of assumptions that developed over time into a ball of presuppositions. The normal methods by which folklore evolves is more than adequate to explain these 'facts'. Which is another option besides true or mistaken -- or did you forget the false dichotomy charge.
No, rather mundane actually. When you use assumptions and tradition as evidence for the miracle stories of Jesus, all you get is an absurd conclusion. Funny how that works -- garbage in, garbage out.
How could all those things be "tradition/assumptions" and the mistaken, yet sincere, writings of the authors?
Uh, this conjunction is not illogical. People can make wrong assumptions while being sincere about them.
Waiting to see when your ad hoc and special pleading and false dilemma fallacies are going to end.