(July 6, 2016 at 2:45 pm)Ignorant Wrote: ALL this demonstration shows is that while some things, RIGHT NOW, depend on the existence of other, simultaneously existing, more fundamental things, something must exist without that or any such condition. It simply exists, and would exist if nothing else existed at all. Call it whatever you want.
And that thing you talk about is the universe, ni god included nor needed.
Oh and the reason I used creatard is because when I boiled out all the nonsense word salad from your previous post, all I got was a badly worded version of Paley's argument from design, which was refuted in On the Origin of Species.
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