(July 7, 2016 at 6:28 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:(July 6, 2016 at 1:04 pm)SteveII Wrote: You are comparing apples and oranges.I don't think it is reasonable to think the NT authors were simply mistaken (as there is ample reasons to think UFO people are)--especially with the additional evidence of the existing churches. The only plausible explanation of the contents being false is intentional deception. That would have been quite an undertaken and I think we would need to answer the question why?
How is a of third person hearsay (the new testament) better evidence than first person belief (ufo "abductees")? At least the ufo people can talk about what they think happen to them, the best you can say for a few books of the new testament is that they are based off letters wriiten by a man who never met his religious leader, thirty years after that leader's death, while at doctrinal odds (in his own words) with those who knew this leader. And then you've got the fact that singificant early documents were destroyed because they didn't agree with later invented orthodoxy and even that significant events depicted in the current bible were fabricated to support this later orthodoxy.
Ufology has more going for it in evidential terms than christianity.
Why is the NT third-person hearsay? Peter, James and John were eyewitnesses. The gospels editors borrowed from even earlier sources so those sources would certainly be from near the time of the events. UFO abductees do not have corroborating testimony such as the 27 different documents from 8 authors and a pre-existing church that believed the same thing. This is how historical events work. By your standard, we could not believe anything about history ever.
Please present your scholarly backup for: "the fact that singificant early documents were destroyed because they didn't agree with later invented orthodoxy and even that significant events depicted in the current bible were fabricated to support this later orthodoxy." (when I say scholarly, something more than a 1-off, Christian bashing, obviously biased, never been published in academic journals, popular level book-writing, author). Then we can discuss it.