(July 15, 2016 at 3:47 am)abaris Wrote:(July 15, 2016 at 12:55 am)Bella Morte Wrote: I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure we're bombing them more. We've also sent undercover special forces directly into the ISIS capital, according to some sources.
Two differences. First, your country hasn't got a disenfranchised proportion of youths, originating from the most sensible regions for recruitment. France has second or third generations coming from Algeria, Tunesia and other former colonies where radical islam is on the rise. They are born French, but traditionally without hope to ever scratch a decent living. In previous years that led to riots in the so called Banlieus. Now they're recruitment fodder for radical preachers, offering them some purpose in life. The killed driver is reported to have been French with Tunesian roots.
Secondly, if you want to destabilize Europe, France seems like the most logical angle. For reasons I gave above. If Le Pen wins the presidential elections next year, there's a good chance that the country would leave the EU. Which would lead to political as well as economical turmoil, since the Euro would be dead too. Europe would be occupied with itself for years to come. Foreign intervention would be off the table. Precious time for gorups like ISIL to regroup and to gain strength again, since the USA would be the only country still willing and able to fight them abroad.
"Disenfranchised proportion of youths"? All minorities have been more or less targeted over the centuries in Europe or indeed in the United States. However, if ever there was a group of people who were "traditionally had no hope to scratch a decent living", it would have been the Jewish population in France, Spain and elsewhere in Europe. Just take a long look at the atrocities committed by the Christians in France against the Jewish, or why not the Christians in Spain who were targetting the Jewish too.
Why don't we look at other ethnic groups who live in and around Paris. For example, there are Vietnamiens, there are Chinese, there are Indians (both Sikh and Hindu), there are Cantonese, there are other Europeans. The bottom line is this, just like everyone else, the world does NOT owe them a living. Furthermore, it grinds my gears that some of the "disenfranchised", youths have clothes that I would need to work a whole
two months for, whereas I have responsibilities to feed my children, where other ethnic minorities have to juggle many jobs to feed their families. It is about time they started blaming the system and looked at themselves in the mirror. All in all, the French government owe them nothing, Europe owes them nothing and if anything, Europe has given them a place in a society which is free, a society which allows them to drink beer when they want, smoke weed when they want and be general nuisances when they want. I think you'll find the English equivalent being a CHAV, where they blame everyone else except themselves.
Furthermore to your statement about the riots, especially in Clichy Sous Bois in 2005(?) It had nothing to do with youths being targeted. The incident was simply a chase between two people on a scooter and a police car. They were chased after and decided to jump into a electric substation (bright idea, not) and the rest as they say is history. So, with that in mind, would you be happy supporting them, knowing full well that your car is next on the list to be burnt out? It happened, and it is not a pretty sight.
As an Englishman, I found it very tough to live in France for the first couple of years due to the language, and it would have been easy to (just like those listed above) blame the French, the country and its government. However, I got down to some really hard work and it paid off at the end. I went back to England in 2008, and came back 18 months later and decided to live in Paris. Two weeks of being in Paris, I got a temporary job at the end of July 2009. Guess what, I have had 6 promotions in 7 years and all because I motivated myself in spite of being criticised because I am English, because of my accent etc.
