Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: February 23, 2025, 7:09 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 1 Vote(s) - 2 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Reasons
#32
RE: Reasons
(April 6, 2009 at 7:13 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I'm establishing Eilonnwy that faith has nothing to do with demonstrable proof. To want to validify claims of God's existence is a fallacy as there can be no demonstrable proof. So where does that leave us - it leaves us in a position where if you want to talk about claims of God existing you're talking with the wrong person. (I'd also suggest that the persuit is utterly foolish, but then let's just stick to what I think).

I have faith that God exists. I have no demonstrable proof. I don't wish to impose my ideas onto you, I want you to have your own ideas and I want to hear them.

I wouldn't say your mind is closed to science. I would say it's closed to stuff outside science, from your answer. Unfortunately I don't have access to that library. I reject supernatural hogwash too. Does that make me closed minded? I address the subject of philosophy but I limit myself to what is reasonable. I'd guess you don't address the subject of philosophy, counting it all as unreasonable.

You're most gracious. Respect to you for that.

I agree, faith doesn't require evidence, and I find that to be an illogical way to approach belief. I respect your right to hold that belief, but because of that we can't have too much of a meaningful conversation because we're starting out with a premise we disagree on.

I find it kind of futile to come here and try and talk about religion/god when we require proof and you don't. There's really no way to come to a consensus, but that's your prerogative. I have no problem talking with you if you can concede to the points that we make if you don't have anything but blind faith to back up your reasons.

I have no problem with philosophy. It's interesting, though admittedly I'm not as educated on it as I would like to be. But I'm trying to self educate since I cannot afford college. What I do know is that philosophy is based on reason and reason is based on evidence, at least that's what my reasoning is.

And yeah, I wish the article was online in full. It's really good. :/
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

::Blogs:: Boston Atheism Examiner - Boston Atheists Blog | :Tongueodcast:: Boston Atheists Report
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Reasons - by WWLD - March 31, 2009 at 11:00 pm
RE: Reasons - by leo-rcc - March 31, 2009 at 11:20 pm
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - March 31, 2009 at 11:31 pm
RE: Reasons - by Demonaura - April 1, 2009 at 12:37 am
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 1, 2009 at 4:25 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2009 at 4:16 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 2, 2009 at 8:27 pm
RE: Reasons - by Demonaura - April 2, 2009 at 8:51 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 3, 2009 at 5:06 am
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 2, 2009 at 8:57 pm
RE: Reasons - by Demonaura - April 2, 2009 at 9:06 pm
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 2, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: Reasons - by leo-rcc - April 2, 2009 at 10:59 pm
RE: Reasons - by athoughtfulman - April 2, 2009 at 11:31 pm
RE: Reasons - by athoughtfulman - April 3, 2009 at 5:40 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2009 at 5:16 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 3, 2009 at 6:01 pm
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 3, 2009 at 6:04 pm
RE: Reasons - by Eilonnwy - April 6, 2009 at 2:36 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2009 at 6:47 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 6, 2009 at 4:44 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 5:09 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 6, 2009 at 5:13 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 6:18 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 7, 2009 at 9:35 am
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 7, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2009 at 6:15 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 7, 2009 at 7:09 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 6:01 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 3:08 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2009 at 3:37 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 11, 2009 at 4:38 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 12, 2009 at 6:20 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 6:37 am
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 12, 2009 at 9:05 am
RE: Reasons - by Ted1205 - April 3, 2009 at 9:26 pm
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 3, 2009 at 10:37 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Reasons - by Eilonnwy - April 6, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 6, 2009 at 5:30 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 7:13 pm
RE: Reasons - by Eilonnwy - April 6, 2009 at 7:34 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2009 at 2:39 am
RE: Reasons - by Eilonnwy - April 7, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: Reasons - by athoughtfulman - April 7, 2009 at 8:43 am
RE: Reasons - by Demonaura - April 7, 2009 at 6:23 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2009 at 8:15 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 11, 2009 at 11:09 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 8, 2009 at 10:39 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 11, 2009 at 3:09 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 12, 2009 at 5:53 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 6:15 am
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 12, 2009 at 12:44 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 3:39 am
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 14, 2009 at 8:35 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 1:10 pm
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 14, 2009 at 1:26 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 17, 2009 at 8:59 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 6:56 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 7:03 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 7:38 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 7:45 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 7:57 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 8:30 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 9:15 am
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 12, 2009 at 9:24 am
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 12, 2009 at 11:19 pm
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 13, 2009 at 7:33 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 14, 2009 at 3:58 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 12:22 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 14, 2009 at 4:08 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 14, 2009 at 12:54 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 14, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 4:57 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 15, 2009 at 5:52 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 15, 2009 at 12:40 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 15, 2009 at 3:36 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 15, 2009 at 3:53 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 16, 2009 at 3:26 am
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 17, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: Reasons - by Tiberius - April 17, 2009 at 11:48 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 18, 2009 at 4:46 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2009 at 3:39 am
RE: Reasons - by SarahIsPi - April 19, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: Reasons - by bozo - April 19, 2009 at 2:49 pm
RE: Reasons - by leo-rcc - April 19, 2009 at 3:12 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2009 at 4:10 pm
RE: Reasons - by Tiberius - April 19, 2009 at 6:11 pm
RE: Reasons - by leo-rcc - April 19, 2009 at 6:27 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 20, 2009 at 4:33 am
RE: Reasons - by athoughtfulman - April 19, 2009 at 10:55 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  New Apologetics Book, 25 Reasons to be Christian. SaintPeter 67 5669 July 15, 2024 at 1:26 am
Last Post: Nay_Sayer
  The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism Chimera7 26 4541 August 20, 2018 at 10:10 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
Video The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work Mental Outlaw 1346 290842 July 2, 2016 at 2:58 pm
Last Post: Redbeard The Pink
  Reasons for belief Arthur123 51 11274 June 22, 2014 at 6:25 pm
Last Post: Chad32
  Reasons for being an Atheist ThisGuyAgain67 41 18965 September 8, 2013 at 1:44 pm
Last Post: Walking Void
  Article: 5 Reasons There Aren't More Women in Atheism rexbeccarox 36 15270 August 6, 2013 at 5:08 pm
Last Post: Mister Agenda
  Top 10 Reasons Morality and Piety are Separate DeistPaladin 6 4342 March 4, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Reasons for..... Zen Badger 0 1273 April 23, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Last Post: Zen Badger
  Your 3 main reasons iamatheist 53 19065 April 20, 2011 at 1:27 am
Last Post: orogenicman
  What are the reasons you don't believe this theory? Zenith 23 10655 March 20, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Last Post: Zenith



Users browsing this thread: 5 Guest(s)