RE: Atheist/liberal correlation
July 23, 2016 at 1:37 pm
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2016 at 1:48 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
We're not the only country in the world with human rights, and we can't make everything better and cheaper than every country that has them. Pointing out that sweatshops exist in the world is a diversion of perception...it means that we're no longer addressing the inanities of protectionism or of subsidizing a failing market. Instead, we're focusing on some easier target, something binary and, to us, more clearly apparent and wrong. That's exactly how the conversation is manouvered by people who will promise you the world...even though they can;t deliver, and you probably wouldn't want them to if you considered what they were actually promising.
No candidate can bring those jobs back, or keep them here. Not for 4 dollars more, not for 40, not for 400. That;s not what wealth or progress looks like in the first place. Most of us couldn;t pay our rent for -current- factory wages. My wife staffs for automotive, I briefly staffed for nestle. Both factories we worked are -full- of people on welfare. That was our bread and butter. We used to haunt the the services offices looking for new marks..because we knew they'd take those jobs and be grateful for them, no matter how shitty they were. No matter how aggressively we could negotiate their expectations down. 80hrs a week, np. No bene's..np. Constant random screening, np. Usory disciplinary and time policies, np. Pay that won't get you off the dole.......np. That;s just what it takes to run the average factory here in the states nowadays....and giving the factory -owners- more money in the form of tax breaks and development incentives (which they already have, btw) won't change that. That;s what these candidates promise to protect, promise to bring back.
I'd like to see that too, btw....but Trumps not your boy..neither is Hillary. You're not giving that a whorl by voting for either of them. I understand your predicament, that you feel compelled to vote for one or the other...but there's no sense in blowing smoke up your own ass about what your vote will get you.
No candidate can bring those jobs back, or keep them here. Not for 4 dollars more, not for 40, not for 400. That;s not what wealth or progress looks like in the first place. Most of us couldn;t pay our rent for -current- factory wages. My wife staffs for automotive, I briefly staffed for nestle. Both factories we worked are -full- of people on welfare. That was our bread and butter. We used to haunt the the services offices looking for new marks..because we knew they'd take those jobs and be grateful for them, no matter how shitty they were. No matter how aggressively we could negotiate their expectations down. 80hrs a week, np. No bene's..np. Constant random screening, np. Usory disciplinary and time policies, np. Pay that won't get you off the dole.......np. That;s just what it takes to run the average factory here in the states nowadays....and giving the factory -owners- more money in the form of tax breaks and development incentives (which they already have, btw) won't change that. That;s what these candidates promise to protect, promise to bring back.
I'd like to see that too, btw....but Trumps not your boy..neither is Hillary. You're not giving that a whorl by voting for either of them. I understand your predicament, that you feel compelled to vote for one or the other...but there's no sense in blowing smoke up your own ass about what your vote will get you.
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