(May 6, 2011 at 3:48 am)Cinjin Cain Wrote: Some of you christians have some STRANGE ideas of what you think being just is.
my two cents:
God is perfectly just, and yet he sentences the imperfect humans he created to infinite suffering in hell for finite sins. Clearly, a limited offense does not warrant unlimited punishment. God's sentencing of the imperfect humans to an eternity in hell for a mere mortal lifetime of sin is infinitely more unjust than this punishment. The absurd injustice of this infinite punishment is even greater when we consider that the ultimate source of human imperfection is the God who created them. A perfectly just God who sentences his imperfect creation to infinite punishment for finite sins is completely unjust.
This god of yours is impossible and you can keep him.
Actually He keeps me and I'm sure glad He does. Let's get something straight here GOD'S creation was perfect, man (Adam) allowed sin to come into God's perfect creation and corrupt it, man is responsible for the imperfection in this world not God. We are reaping what man has sown, do not give me "why should others suffer because Adam sinned". If he had not the next man would have and he did Cain murdered his brother and all of mankind has sinned ever since. So God is not punishing you because He created you imperfect, that's just the way you and I were born.
What would you have God do, put you in hell for a time and then let you into His kingdom. You may not have repented and God is not going to allow unrepented sinners into heaven. How would that be justice for the ones who lived in faith in this world, God has to balance the scales between the faithful and the unfaithful equally. Whether you like it or not life is eternal and God will not distroy it, so zapping one out of existance is not an option, what would you have God do.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
