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RE: Reasons
(April 7, 2009 at 2:39 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Yes, I have faith without demonstrable proof. I do have reasoning though to back up my position. My reasoning is in the realm of philosophy, philosophy not based on provable evidence. So I disagree that philosophy is based on empirical evidence, if that's what you're saying.

All the best people self study Wink Like a teacher friend used to say, it sets apart those who have real and sustainable motivation.

See now we're getting into semantics. To me provable evidence is empirical, but what it seems you mean by provable is that essentially you can argue god into existence and to me that's fallacious.

Besides, most philisophical arguments I have seen for god, if they can prove true which I don't think is the case, seem to argue for a deistic god, and I think if such a god exists, (Which, to be clear I'm agnostic about the deistic god) he's not really worth worshipping or believing in. You can't make the jump from saying something like god is love to then putting attributes on him like answering prayers and caring about your sex life.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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Reasons - by WWLD - March 31, 2009 at 11:00 pm
RE: Reasons - by leo-rcc - March 31, 2009 at 11:20 pm
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - March 31, 2009 at 11:31 pm
RE: Reasons - by Demonaura - April 1, 2009 at 12:37 am
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 1, 2009 at 4:25 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2009 at 4:16 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 2, 2009 at 8:27 pm
RE: Reasons - by Demonaura - April 2, 2009 at 8:51 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 3, 2009 at 5:06 am
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 2, 2009 at 8:57 pm
RE: Reasons - by Demonaura - April 2, 2009 at 9:06 pm
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 2, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: Reasons - by leo-rcc - April 2, 2009 at 10:59 pm
RE: Reasons - by athoughtfulman - April 2, 2009 at 11:31 pm
RE: Reasons - by athoughtfulman - April 3, 2009 at 5:40 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2009 at 5:16 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 3, 2009 at 6:01 pm
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 3, 2009 at 6:04 pm
RE: Reasons - by Eilonnwy - April 6, 2009 at 2:36 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2009 at 6:47 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 6, 2009 at 4:44 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 5:09 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 6, 2009 at 5:13 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 6:18 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 7, 2009 at 9:35 am
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 7, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2009 at 6:15 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 7, 2009 at 7:09 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 6:01 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 3:08 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2009 at 3:37 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 11, 2009 at 4:38 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 12, 2009 at 6:20 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 6:37 am
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 12, 2009 at 9:05 am
RE: Reasons - by Ted1205 - April 3, 2009 at 9:26 pm
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 3, 2009 at 10:37 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Reasons - by Eilonnwy - April 6, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 6, 2009 at 5:30 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 7:13 pm
RE: Reasons - by Eilonnwy - April 6, 2009 at 7:34 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2009 at 2:39 am
RE: Reasons - by Eilonnwy - April 7, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: Reasons - by athoughtfulman - April 7, 2009 at 8:43 am
RE: Reasons - by Demonaura - April 7, 2009 at 6:23 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2009 at 8:15 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 11, 2009 at 11:09 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 8, 2009 at 10:39 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 11, 2009 at 3:09 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 12, 2009 at 5:53 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 6:15 am
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 12, 2009 at 12:44 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 3:39 am
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 14, 2009 at 8:35 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 1:10 pm
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 14, 2009 at 1:26 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 17, 2009 at 8:59 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 6:56 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 7:03 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 7:38 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 7:45 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 7:57 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 8:30 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 9:15 am
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 12, 2009 at 9:24 am
RE: Reasons - by WWLD - April 12, 2009 at 11:19 pm
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 13, 2009 at 7:33 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 14, 2009 at 3:58 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 12:22 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 14, 2009 at 4:08 am
RE: Reasons - by Giff - April 14, 2009 at 12:54 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 14, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 4:57 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 15, 2009 at 5:52 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 15, 2009 at 12:40 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 15, 2009 at 3:36 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 15, 2009 at 3:53 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 16, 2009 at 3:26 am
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 17, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: Reasons - by Tiberius - April 17, 2009 at 11:48 pm
RE: Reasons - by Kyuuketsuki - April 18, 2009 at 4:46 am
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2009 at 3:39 am
RE: Reasons - by SarahIsPi - April 19, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: Reasons - by bozo - April 19, 2009 at 2:49 pm
RE: Reasons - by leo-rcc - April 19, 2009 at 3:12 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2009 at 4:10 pm
RE: Reasons - by Tiberius - April 19, 2009 at 6:11 pm
RE: Reasons - by leo-rcc - April 19, 2009 at 6:27 pm
RE: Reasons - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: Reasons - by Edwardo Piet - April 20, 2009 at 4:33 am
RE: Reasons - by athoughtfulman - April 19, 2009 at 10:55 pm

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