(May 6, 2011 at 6:13 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Because you don't believe there is justice, you have to accept that life isn't fair. That's a burden you are giving yourself. I can celebrate that life is fair. The whole point of Xtianity is to enable you to live as full a life as is possible. This is an example of how that is achieved.
I never said that life wasn't fair because there is not justice. WE can employ justice, if we are able to do so. That is why the country you live in has laws.
The point which you are missing is that it is not necessary for a god to create these laws at all. Moral beliefs are subjective to the individual, yet by human nature we all have similar moral codes (do not kill, do not steal etc). I am merely saying it is not necessary for a god to give us these emotions or to command us himself what is right and wrong.
I'll try and give an example. We don't believe killing is wrong because god tells us it is wrong. We believe killing is wrong because it ends a persons life, it ends a persons ability to live, and will more than likely inflict them great pain, or prevent them from having positive experiences.
Why do we believe this? because we wouldn't want it to happen to ourselves, right? so if we can say that we don't want it to happen to us, then we can reason that it would be bad for others to experience it too. This is how someone decides upon morality, by asking 'would i like it if it happened to me'.
WOULD I LIKE TO BE STOLEN FROM
WOULD I LIKE TO BE KILLED
WOULD I LIKE TO BE RAPED
etc
This is where we say 'NO', and as a result we all can determine that these things are wrong.
We do not need a bible to tell us this. THAT is my point.
