RE: God: Proofs of non-existence and existence.
April 7, 2009 at 8:34 pm
(April 7, 2009 at 9:11 am)athoughtfulman Wrote: (April 6, 2009 at 3:02 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: When Christians converse they find they are in agreement on key findings. This is evidence of those common reasons.
Of course, are perhaps it would seem that because people agree and have the same reasons, there must be some objective truth. But the amount of people that believe in something does not affect where something is true or not. All it says is that lots of people believe in it.
Absolutely. I was just answering your point on common reasoning.
(April 7, 2009 at 9:11 am)athoughtfulman Wrote: If something is objective is means it is undistorted by emotion or personal bias; it is based on observable phenomena.
So if lots of people share a common reason for something, the next step is to evaluate whether there reason/s are objective or subjective. Are the reason/s undistorted by an emotional bias and based on observable phenomena? Then their reason/s are likely objective. But if there is an emotional bias and the reason/s are not based on observable phenomena, then they are subjective.
Agreed
(April 7, 2009 at 9:11 am)athoughtfulman Wrote: I understand that one can argue that because a number of people have seen something, it is observable phenomena. No - observable phenomena is observable by anyone if they wish to see it. Much like if I wish to see the sky, I must go outside. And absolutely anyone who wants to see the sky, can outside for themselves.
I discard this sort of evidence. I just don't find it useful. I also find it goes against belief.
(April 7, 2009 at 9:11 am)athoughtfulman Wrote: In 99.99% of cases, Christians are emotionally biased and do not include observable phenomena in their reasoning. The .01%? Call them an agnostic theist.
Says you! I disagree. Only the foolish are swayed that much by emotion. I see it as a nice addition to the experience, nothing more. Every sensible Christian I know does the same.