I Love You Enough to Burn You

[theVOID]

Does an irrational belief nevertheless use rationality?

Ahhhh, example?

No disagreement there, although I fail to see the relevance.

You said it was a process...

"And belief is a rational process nothing to do with fantasy"

Not quite VOID. The description of functionality forms the framework within which God operates.... metaphysically & not physically. It's very clear.

You mean supernaturally? It doesn't seem like you're using the word 'metaphysically' correctly.

And can you explain further what you mean by "The description of functionality forms the framework within which God operates"?

How would that change his claim?

Saying "There is no evidence" is a positive claim about reality, that there exists no evidence at all of the existence of god.

Saying "I don't know of any evidence" is a statement of fact about the mental states of the person in question.

The former is Gnostic Atheism, the latter is Agnostic Atheism.

Stop backing up the diversion tactics VOID!
Let us address how Ace presumes to establish the non existence of supernature using nature. He makes the claim... let's see it defended or abandoned.

It's not a diversion tactic, it's straight to the point. I do not think Ace takes the positive position that "supernature does not exist", he takes the position that he knows of no good reason to believe it does. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Again, you are the person claiming supernature on top of nature, so you have the burden of proof.

Yeah I do. I don't know everything but from what I do know that has proven to be true, so I feel confident in asserting it.

*Gobsmacked*

You think Jonah lived in the belly of a whale? Do you think Lot's wife was turned to stone? Do you believe that Pharisees lived in Nazareth? Do you believe eating shellfish is immoral? Do you believe God sent bears to tear children limb from limb? Do you believe that there was actually a talking snake or a burning bush? Are you unaware of the contradictory orders of events presented in Genesis? The contradictory genealogies for Jesus in the NT? Do you believe the Exodus actually happened? Do you believe David united Israel and Judah?

There are tons of things that are either plain false, inconsistent or nonsense in the bible.

My Christian faith.

Logical in what sense?

So why does your sig qualify 'naturalism' with 'metaphysical'?

To make the distinction between the positions of metaphysical naturalism and methodological naturalism for one...