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And as far as any objective critic can tell that is simply your bias.

Yes, the uninformed wouldn't really understand. To the informed the facts are plain.

Ah yes, everyone who disagrees with you is wrong ... excellent! Did I tell you how impressed I was?

Yes. You must be some rainbow warrior princess by now!

Did I just say that? Or was that your magic pencils doing their stuff again?

[quote='Kyuuketsuki' pid='13475' dateline='1239132093']Where would that be then?

[quote='Kyuuketsuki' pid='13518' dateline='1239184913']Demonaura only said we need a mediator and actually specifically mentioned the point of people not responding which in this forum has pretty much been you. Both he and Adrian were simply trying to get the conversation moving again as indeed it did (at least from my side responding to the same point that Thoughtful did).

Well you certainly coloured that one well colour me wan kenobi (joke). Let's not mention this elusive question you've been dying for me to answer but religiously ignore. Or are you saying that I answered you now?

I Have no idea ... we've sidetracked far too far for me to know any more. I know I've asked before and been largely ignored (it's a theists thing IMO) but why don't you post a summary opf the replies (much as I do when I'm fired up enough) and then I will do my best to answer?

Hmmm. I almost believe you. Here you go anyway.

Now are you going to answer (properly) the points I have made (and I'll summarise)?

1. So it is valid to assume there is no god (in exactly the same way as we assume that the moon is not made of green cheese and that little green men in flying saucers are not constantly "buzzing " our Earth) until actual evidence is supplied yes?
   
2. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, you haven't provided any therefore it is safe to assume that what you claim has no (ZERO, NADA, ZIP) basis in truth and the claimant is either a fraud or deluded.

1. So it is valid to assume there is no god (in exactly the same way as we assume that the moon is not made of green cheese and that little green men in flying saucers are not constantly "buzzing " our Earth) until actual evidence is supplied yes?

As I've said I can't remember how many times now, from my very first visit here, on every visit it seems.

It is entirely valid to assume that there is no God. It has to be like that for Biblical claims to be correct. You have to have a choice. It has to be unprovable.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, you haven't provided any therefore it is safe to assume that what you claim has no (ZERO, NADA, ZIP) basis in truth and the claimant is either a fraud or deluded.

Absolutely. There can be no proof.

Is my face blue? How many times do you think I could find that I've said the same thing on this forum, yet several people keep saying I haven't answered this. Can I have this stickied or something? Perhaps I could put it in my sig. Would that be fair? Or would I be being disingenuous?

What are my extraordinary claims? I don't claim that there is actually a God that you must believe in. I state that I believe in such an existence without proof. Why should that bother you? I'm not claiming anything. I'm making a personal choice.

As I've said I can't remember how many times now, from my very first visit here, on every visit it seems.

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Then WHY should we treat your claims, your views as anything other than the ravings of a deluded maniac? Why are you here trying to engage us on this subject if it is so reasonable to believe what we believe? I'm not trying to be funny but why don't you go away and talk to someone who wants to people who genuinely want to engage on your fairytale rubbish?

I know why I'm here, I'm in the company of people whose views on at least one key subject (being atheists) we empathise ... why are you here and talking about some crap that has no merit whatsoever?

Kyu

@ Kyu: I never brought up the subject of my non claims. you did. I tried to say I didn't want to discuss it, but you insisted very strongly that I did.

You don't have to do anything with my beliefs. Why should you? Your point, I'm sure, was to debunk any claim I had. As I made none, then you are disappointed, understandably.

I've said many times why I'm here. I say your crap has merit. I'm happy that you think differently to me, and I value your opinion.