Is God always "just"?

[Cinjin]

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I already answered you questions about finite vs infinite punishment scenario. Read again.


dammnit, I just deleted my whole damn response in the EDIT. SHIT, maybe a mod can get it back.

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Where did you define it? All I saw was your thesaurus thing, which of course didn't define it. So maybe we should try this instead.

In post #67 I gave my initial opinion on god's judgement.
In post #79 I told you that I use a standard definition for "just"
You on the other hand, want your god to have some kind of special definition for "just". I stated before, as I am AGAIN, that I define terms the same way everybody else does. Am I holding your god to the world's definition of "just"? You're goddamn right I am! You don't have the privilege of redefining words to suit your agenda. Your brothers in Christ say “our god is just” … I can only use the definition of justice that exists to interpret what that means. And that definition is found in any dictionary/thesaurus you can put your hands on.

What’s really stupid is that this whole dictionary vs. thesaurus thing would be a pointless stupid debate to anyone else. You HAD to make issue with it because you NEED to be able to redefine justice so that you can give your hateful god a leg to stand on.

This is what I meant when I wrote, "just like your god, you play by your own special rules."

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Well forgive me for wanting you to use a dictionary to define words haha. I thought that was a pretty reasonable request I.

Let's look at how the dictionary defines just...

1. Guided by truth, reason, justice, and fairness: We hope to be just in our understanding of such difficult situations.
2. done or made according to principle; equitable; proper: a just reply.
3. based on right; rightful; lawful: a just claim.

So really all you did was state your opinion that an infinite punishment is unjust for a finite crime (This is stated nowhere in the definition of justice). I have already demonstrated how this is illogical, but I will just state my opinion back if that is what you want (an opinion for an opinion seems fair enough). An infinite punishment for a crime committed against an infinite being IS just. That was easy enough. I will even set it up in a syllogism.

1. The just wage for sin is death.
2. All have sinned.
3. All receive death.
4. Therefore all get what they deserve.

1. Justice is defined as getting what you deserve.
2. All get what they deserve.
3. Therefore all receive justice.

Now stop whining about it.

So really all you did was state your opinion that an infinite punishment is unjust for a finite crime (This is stated nowhere in the definition of justice). ….of course it’s not! What's wrong with you? Our argument is not going to be listed in a dictionary/thesaurus. However, like ANY term in a dictionary, we can conclude whether or not it is accurate to our query.
The very definition of justice does indeed prove my side, at the very least, BETTER than it does yours. See below for why.

1. The just wage for sin is death. FLAWED – that is an opinion. I do not sin if I do not recognize a fictional being who defines sin.
2. All have sinned. – FLAWED – that too is opinion. What you call sin, I call natural evolutionary actions
3. All receive death. – Well, yes, everyone does indeed die. That is not punishment, that too is natural.
4. Therefore all get what they deserve. – FLAWED – I do not deserve hell. Only death is naturally “deserved”

1. Justice is defined as getting what you deserve. – FLAWED – Biased, that is only a partial definition of justice.
2. All get what they deserve. – FLAWED – even in your Bible many persons did NOT get what they deserved. King David for example.
3. Therefore all receive justice. FLAWED – Finite “sins” do not deserve infinite punishment. Illogical conclusion. Justice must be fair and impartial. Finite punishment for finite crimes. Infinite for infinite … and since only Lucifer himself is capable of infinite crimes, that puts your god in a very unjust light.

WOW, you’ve got A LOT of nerve saying that I’ve been the one whining about definitions.
You’re the one who wouldn’t let it the fuck go from the first moment I posted!
That’s just an outright lie and I challenge anyone to go through the posts and see what I’m talking about.