RE: Mother and son in New Mexico face jail time for incestuous relationship
August 11, 2016 at 9:51 pm
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2016 at 9:52 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(August 11, 2016 at 6:57 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Perhaps enforcement isn't the best word for it. They represent a certain morality, though, by enforcing social behaviour.
But that isn't enforcing outlook, and morality is about outlook. There are folks who need laws to not steal from you, no doubt -- but there are also folks who have internal laws which prevent them stealing fro you even if they can get away with it legally.
This idea of yours that legislation is morality -- or that morality is legislated, I'm not sure how you want to spin it -- the two aren't equivalent. It was very legal in Germany in 1937 to discriminate against Jews solely on the basis of their background.
Was that moral? Hell no, it wasn't.
It was legal in America to ban blacks from lunch-counters simply on the basis of their race. Was that moral?
This idea of yours, that legality equals morality, is deeply flawed. I hope you never discover those flaws yourself, at first-hand. But if you do, don't whine about it here.
(August 11, 2016 at 6:57 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Well, technically, they can change how you feel about a matter. Societal pressure has a big impact on individuals. By laying that groundwork for your punishment, they are telling you what your society, at least formally, deems right and wrong. This is all implicit, not explicit. I can understand how one would fail to notice this.
It's not that I "failed to notice it"; it's that, unlike you, I really don't give a shit what societal expectations are outside my obeying the law. I do that to stay out of jail, but I don't care about any groundwork you claim is being laid, because so long as I don't get arrested -- or so long as I can afford a decent attorney -- assholes who try and push social mores and law can suck a fart out of my ass.
They may have changed how you feel about morality, but that's only you, one of seven billion, and no more privileged than any other.
You can punish yourself, it's all good, but don't think for a moment that your surrender -- and that's what it is, you've surrendered to social convention -- speaks for me at all. You have a long ways to go before you even understand me, much less speak for me. They may change how you feel. Accept that and deal with it on your own time, without projection.
(August 11, 2016 at 6:57 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Which questions are you referring to?
Perhaps you should read the thread? I won't repeat myself for your sake, either you're quick enough to keep up, or not.
Guess I know that answer already, given your question.