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Afterlife
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RE: Afterlife
(August 15, 2016 at 4:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 15, 2016 at 4:16 am)Arkilogue Wrote: There are many clinical reports of NDE consciousness after brain death.

http://www.near-death.com/science/eviden...-dead.html

Sorry, but there are NO reports as you describe (this is why such phenomena are called NDEs, not DEs).  In Ms Reynolds' case, her 'experience' appears to have occurred while she was under general anesthesia, before she was placed into hypothermic cardiac arrest.

Boru
From the link....

"For practical purposes outside the world of academic debate, three clinical tests commonly determine brain death. First, a standard electroencephalogram, or EEG, measures brain-wave activity. A "flat" EEG denotes non-function of the cerebral cortex - the outer shell of the cerebrum. Second, auditory evoked potentials, similar to those [clicks] elicited by the ear speakers in Pam's surgery, measure brain-stem viability. Absence of these potentials indicates non-function of the brain stem. And third, documentation of no blood flow to the brain is a marker for a generalized absence of brain function.

But during "standstill", Pam's brain was found "dead" by all three clinical tests - her electroencephalogram was silent, her brain-stem response was absent, and no blood flowed through her brain.
Interestingly, while in this state, she encountered the "deepest" NDE of all Atlanta Study participants."



Are you proposing that the electromagnetic field of the heart is the seat of consciousness?
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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Afterlife - by Torin - August 14, 2016 at 5:47 pm
RE: Afterlife - by Angrboda - August 14, 2016 at 8:06 pm
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